davidlory on youtube regarding Adam-God

[_gdemetz]

Nightlion, you need to read Moses 6:22 which states that Adam was the son of God. You should also read "Mormon Doctrine" under the heading "Son of God." Bruce McConkie states this as well as Brigham Young.

[_Nightlion]

Also, the teachings that Adam (or Michael) is the father of our spirits is not found in the standard works.

It is well found in the standard works. It is all that they say about it. Stop believing the strong delusion that the Restoration was given to believe a lie because they did not love the truth (Zion) but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (The excellence of Babylon)....

Possible Dialogue between the Mighty Builder and GBH:
"Gee wiz, President Hinckley, if we put hanging gardens draped over the walls of the Conference Center and build it to look like a Ziggarat with a giant phallus spilling endlessly of its issue wont the people think that the Church is fallen and become the Whore of Babylon?"
(chuckling to himself) "Son, nevermind all that. Just go do like you are told and everything will work out just fine."

[_gdemetz]

Then give me a qoute where that teaching is found in the standard works. I say that it is not in there.

[_Nightlion]

Then give me a qoute where that teaching is found in the standard works. I say that it is not in there.

You will not recognize this because it is too familiar and you already have an imprint of what it means. I am showing you that your imprint is not precise. It is saying more than you know, you have yet to realize it.

Genesis 1:26-28
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that reepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the dearth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is the resurrection of Adam and Eve unto their exaltation. Note that they are made glorious like unto God, And they have dominion given to them. A dominion over an entire world. They are commanded to multiply and replenish. This is not in the Garden of Eden. After they are commanded in the next chapter it is said that they finished all the hosts thereof. These are the spirits created in heaven BEFORE they were naturally upon the earth as the record goes on to say.

Knowing what it says in D&C 132 about resurrection unto exaltation which is the continuation of the seeds, both IN the world and OUT of the world,,,,,meaning spirit body seeds and physical seeds. We see therefore this first creation story is about exaltation and not about life upon the physical world. How can it be any plainer stated than that? You do need to know what only Restoration believers know. We need not be scared to death but learn line upon line. If we know something we must use it to understand more. That is how we are taught of God.

I can show you what preceded the spirit body birth in the Book of Abraham with the organization of intelligence. But you must use D&C 93 and D&C 29 to understand it fully.

You can fall back on your prime imprint of these familiar scriptures or you can advance in the knowledge of God.

HINT: just because two scriptures follow one another does not mean that an immense amount of time did not pass between the two of them.

[_gdemetz]

Yes, I am familiar with all of those. However, no where did I see where it was Adam and not Elohim who created (from the Hebrew, bareau, meaning to organize) who created man. The prophets have taught that Christ was the creator under the direction of Heavenly Father, but that when it came to the creation of man, it was Heavenly Father who was the father of Adam (see "Mormon Doctrine," "Son of God."). It explains how Adam, Eve, and Christ, were all begotten "naturally" by Heavenly Father. Of course, the term "Only Begotten" refers to Christ being the only one born to a mortal woman.

[_ludwigm]

These latest posts are so full of contradictions!

As other words of the early prophets, cited from church's documents.

See my signature about spouting gibberish.

[_gdemetz]

Not if you read them objectively. The Bible itself probably has more seeming contradictions.

[_ludwigm]

Not if you read them objectively.

Certainly!

If You say it...

[_Darth J]

These latest posts are so full of contradictions! Birham Young did not believe in the Virgin Birth. and one comment here claims that he did, and the other that he didn't!

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I suppose I can take comfort in the fact that neither do you. I never said Brigham Young believed in the Virgin Birth, and nobody has pulled out any quotes from him saying otherwise.

He taught plainly as recorded in the discourses of Brigham Young the the Father begat Christ instead of letting another man do it.

Yes he did. And he plainly taught that said Father was Adam.

One comment here states that the Father, Elohim, fathered Adam, which is what he taught, and the other states otherwise! You guys can't have it both ways.

There is no "both ways." According to Brigham Young, Elohim fathered Adam, and Adam fathered the spirits of the human race. Adam is our Heavenly Father, Elohim is our Heavenly Grandfather.

Isn't it wonderful? Isn't it marvelous?

Either you must believe that Brigham Young was a madman, or else except the explaination which I gave. I already explained some of the comments that you showed here.

No, that's a false dichotomy. Brigham Young, whom the LDS Church (and the FLDS Church) reveres as the second prophet of the Restoration, had a different concept of the Godhead than the modern LDS Church does.

[_gdemetz]

That is incorrect. As I stated before, I have read all of the discourses of Brigham Young, and he did believe as I stated. There are only two statements that are misunderstood, and one of those should not be since he clearly refers to future "Adams" and "Eves." The only really confusing statement he makes, I explained. I even mentioned other quotes he made which clearly taught his beliefs concerning this matter. However, the critics always want to ignore those. There are other statements that he made also concerning his true belief on this matter. After the quotes I gave to show what he really believed, he goes on further to clarify it more on one of them:

"The He commenced the work of creating earthly tabernacles, precisely as He had been created in the flesh Himself, by partaking of the coarse material that was organized and composed this earth, until His system was charged with it, consequently the tabernacles of His children were organized from the coarse materials of this earth."

"I want to tell you, each and every one of you, that you are well acquainted with God our Heavenly Father, or the great Elohim"
(Discourses of Brigham Young, page 50). These statements are very consistent will all of the other statements He made concerning this matter. I gave this one as well as another one in the "Adam-God Theory" topic here.