Do Mormons believe God literaly had sex with Mary?

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Re: Do Mormons believe God literaly had sex with Mary?

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Tobin wrote:I really wish the TBMs would chime in. This is a terrible doctrine and one I've heard many of them state matter-of-factly. I've tried to help gdemetz see that it isn't taught in the Old Testament, New Testament, or Book of Mormon; but he dismisses all of that and sticks with the God-had-sex-with-Mary line that Brigham Young taught. The problem I have with many Mormons is once a false doctrine like this gets taught and accepted by many of them, they can't seem to fix themselves and are perfectly willing to accept the ludicrous consequences that such a doctrine imply.


And how do you know this is false doctrine? Sex is so bad that God would never engage in it. LOL Funny how Joseph got lots of sex with lots of women but the church has evolved to view sex so negatively.
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SteelHead wrote:Tobin,
The difficulty for the believer becomes then: which prophets were speaking as a prophet and which was as man. If we throw out teachings of BY do when then throw out the Book of Abraham? The Book of Mormon? It becomes a rabbit hole with no end escalated by the teachings that the prophet can not lead the church astray. If BY was wrong on Adam-God, then was he actually the true successor to Joseph Smith? Were the rlds actually correct, the flds?
Maybe they'd become well-adjusted Mormons and recognize that the Mormon leaders are just fallible men instead and stop having this false, idiotic concept in their heads that these men are God and perfect and can never say or do anything wrong. They MIGHT even realize that prophets are just those that speak the truth and there have in fact been many prophets called that are not recognized by the Mormons and should be. I am speaking about why Mormon churches don't teach about MLK or Gandhi and what they said and taught for example. If Mormons were willing to readily embrace the truth, as best as God gives them the light to see it, I think we'd have a very moderate, inclusive, and much improved version of Mormonism today (minus a big mall in the middle of SLC).
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Doesn't fit that caricature to the style most of the comments here?
It was moved to telestial... (viewtopic.php?p=573146#p573146)

The title is "... God literaly had sex with Mary"
Polygamy-Porter wrote:When God was doing his "O" face(e.g. climaxing) do you think he said "oh me! oh my ME!"
Buffalo wrote:Technically, originally the doctrine was that Adam (our God) boinked Mary.
Hades wrote:So a resurrected body has no blood, but it does have semen? That's weird.
Buffalo wrote:Actually semen replaces all the blood. That's the life-giving substance spoken of by Elder Packer, and that's what allows resurrected bodies to live forever.
sock puppet wrote:So why would a male that has the ability to impregnate through copulation choose artificial insemination via the Unembodied One?
If the Mormon god, whomever that may be, didn't have Biblical 'knowledge' of Mary, why would it be that exalted Mormons will need their genitalia in the CK? If they reproduce without it, maybe it will be the CK achievers that will be the eternal smoothies.
DarkHelmet wrote:The bigger question is if Mary gave god a blowjob.
liz3564 wrote:That must be why women can have several orgasms while men can only have one! :wink:
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This one Doctrine disqualifies Mormon Jesus as a Redeemer.

For unlike real Christian Jesus, Mormon Jesus is a Bastard Child which means he is not without spot or blemish as required in the Old Testament as a qualification to be a Redeemer.

Stupid Mormons
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ludwigm wrote:Doesn't fit that caricature to the style most of the comments here?
It was moved to telestial... (http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 46#p573146)

The title is "... God literaly had sex with Mary"
Polygamy-Porter wrote:When God was doing his "O" face(e.g. climaxing) do you think he said "oh me! oh my ME!"
Buffalo wrote:Technically, originally the doctrine was that Adam (our God) boinked Mary.
Hades wrote:So a resurrected body has no blood, but it does have semen? That's weird.
Buffalo wrote:Actually semen replaces all the blood. That's the life-giving substance spoken of by Elder Packer, and that's what allows resurrected bodies to live forever.
sock puppet wrote:So why would a male that has the ability to impregnate through copulation choose artificial insemination via the Unembodied One?
If the Mormon god, whomever that may be, didn't have Biblical 'knowledge' of Mary, why would it be that exalted Mormons will need their genitalia in the CK? If they reproduce without it, maybe it will be the CK achievers that will be the eternal smoothies.
DarkHelmet wrote:The bigger question is if Mary gave god a blowjob.
liz3564 wrote:That must be why women can have several orgasms while men can only have one! :wink:


It seems strange that the cartoon got the boot. Maybe the cartoon nipples offended someone's sensibilities?
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The Mighty Builder wrote:This one Doctrine disqualifies Mormon Jesus as a Redeemer.

For unlike real Christian Jesus, Mormon Jesus is a Bastard Child which mean he is not without spot or blemish as required in the Old Testament as a qualification to be a Redeemer.

Stupid Mormons

Thank you. I rarely complain at offense to my beliefs, this gets to me.
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Tobin wrote:Maybe they'd become well-adjusted Mormons and recognize that the Mormon leaders are just fallible men instead and stop having this false, idiotic concept in their heads that these men are God and perfect and can never say or do anything wrong. They MIGHT even realize that prophets are just those that speak the truth and there have in fact been many prophets called that are not recognized by the Mormons and should be. I am speaking about why Mormon churches don't teach about MLK or Gandhi and what they said and taught for example. If Mormons were willing to readily embrace the truth, as best as God gives them the light to see it, I think we'd have a very moderate, inclusive, and much improved version of Mormonism today (minus a big mall in the middle of Salt Lake City).


Yet how do you know they are wrong? God didn't tell you. You only had one expereince you think he showed up, and that one was supposedly not seeking God. I just don't get how you can be so certain they are wrong when you have no idea what God says on the subject. How do you know they didn't ask God, since you didn't.
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Do Mormons believe God literaly had sex with Mary?


Nope, no Mormon believes this, save the rare nut.
All quotes anti-mormons use to try to state this only demonstrate that Christ was definitely a MAN, and that Christ was definitely the Father's Only Begotten Son.

They were not stating sex. It's called an "Immaculate Conception" for a reason.
In our modern terms, it's easy to see how it occurred.
The Father's Power overshadowed Mary and the Holy Ghost placed the Father's necessary matter to contribute his side of the DNA to Mary's Egg.

There is no need for "sex" there. No need to re-interpret the word "Virgin". The Church has always been clear that she was a Virgin, and it's clear from the scriptures that she was a Virgin. The word has never simply meant "someone young" or whatever. It's one meaning, but not the actual mean. Different words are used for "someone young". Thus, that is a false interpretation.

Further, the context of those leaders words are debunking a popular "Christian" view of the day, that Christ was actually a child of the Holy Ghost. They were debunking false doctrine, not trying to teach God has "sex" with Mary.
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ldsfaqs wrote:It's called an "Immaculate Conception" for a reason.


Aye, aye, aye.

The Immaculate Conception is about Anna and Mary, not Mary and Jesus. It refers to Mary being born such that she did not pass Original Sin on to her child, Jesus.

The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with the mechanics of how Jesus was concieved.

You are condemed to stand in the corner and be flagellated by a Magnum XL condom.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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Themis wrote:And how do you know this is false doctrine? Sex is so bad that God would never engage in it. LOL Funny how Joseph got lots of sex with lots of women but the church has evolved to view sex so negatively.

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