Do Mormons believe God literaly had sex with Mary?

[_Polygamy-Porter]

http://www.salamandersociety.com/slamto ... culate.jpg

[_ldsfaqs]

It's called an "Immaculate Conception" for a reason.

Aye, aye, aye.

The Immaculate Conception is about Anna and Mary, not Mary and Jesus. It refers to Mary being born such that she did not pass Original Sin on to her child, Jesus.

The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with the mechanics of how Jesus was concieved.

You are condemed to stand in the corner and be flagellated by a Magnum XL condom.

Depends on which interpretation you hold to.
Traditionally it always referred to the conception by Mary of Jesus, but there have been those who have tried to extend it to Mary and Anne. The confusion has occurred because it was Mary who "conceived", but when people talked about the "conception of Mary", some falsely attributed it to Anne when it was really talking about Mary's conception, which was her "conceiving" the Christ. Of course, Mary would have had to have been freed from sin at the moment of conception, furthering the confusion.

Basically, it's a doctrine that was ultimately perverted in the 1850's and a few times in the ages before from it's original meaning.

Don't believe everything you read in Wikipedia....

Plus, I'm using it in a more "generic" manner according to it's true meaning.
The conception of Mary to conceive the Christ was a "miracle", was "immaculate/divine", not sexual in nature.
I'm not making a Catholic doctrinal argument, I'm using the more generic and common meaning of the word.

[_lulu]

Depends on which interpretation you hold to.
Traditionally it always referred to the conception by Mary of Jesus, but there have been those who have tried to extend it to Mary and Anne. The confusion has occurred because it was Mary who "conceived", but when people talked about the "conception of Mary", some falsely attributed it to Anne when it was really talking about Mary's conception, which was her "conceiving" the Christ. Of course, Mary would have had to have been freed from sin at the moment of conception, furthering the confusion.

Basically, it's a doctrine that was ultimately perverted in the 1850's and a few times in the ages before from it's original meaning.

Don't believe everything you read in Wikipedia....

Plus, I'm using it in a more "generic" manner according to it's true meaning.
The conception of Mary to conceive the Christ was a "miracle", was "immaculate/divine", not sexual in nature.
I'm not making a Catholic doctrinal argument, I'm using the more generic and common meaning of the word.

Some one just threw up. Hate that smell.

[_Shulem]

That must be why women can have several orgasms while men can only have one!

Not true. Some men can go multiple times. I can.



Paul O

[_SteelHead]

Look at faqs.... All wrong on the immaculate conception, then scrambling to cover his error.

The idea in the catholic church traces back to the 4th century. It has always been in reference to the conception of Mary. The birth of Christ is called the virgin birth. Better study more faqs.

[Guest]

Oh this is fun. The self declared font of all LDS truth (who is never wrong) claiming Brigham Young, Joseph Field Smith, Talmadge, and a dozen other prophet seers and revelators to be nutters.

"The birth of our Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood--was begotten of his father, as we were of our fathers."
~Brigham Young JoD, vol. 8, p. 115

"When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him inhis own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he (Christ) took a
tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in Heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve. Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same
character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven."
~Brigham Young, JoD 1:50-51,

"When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came himself and favored that Spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it. The Saviour was
begotten by the Father of His spirit, by the same being who is the Father of our spirits, and that is all the organic difference between Jesus Christ and you and me."
~Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, 1925 edition, p.77

"The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated in the capacity of husband and wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful wife, because it would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He overshadowed her or begat the Savior unlawfully........He had a lawful right to overshadow the Virgin Mary in the capacity of a husband, and beget a Son.......Whether God the Father gave Mary to Joseph for time only, or for time and eternity, we are not informed. It may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in this mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity."
~Orson Pratt, The Seer, Oct. 1853, p. 158

"I will say that I was naturally begotten; so was my father, also my Saviour Jesus Christ. According to the Scriptures, he is the first begotten of his father in the flesh, and there was nothing unnatural about it"
~Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, 8:211

"The Holy Ghost is the messenger of the Father and the Son. Mortal beings could not endure the presence of the Father without the Spirit overshadowing them, and that was the mission of the Holy Ghost, but not to beget the Son of God, that was the business of the father. Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Son of God the Father in the flesh, and in holding to this doctrine President Brigham Young is in perfect accord with the teachings in the Bible."
~Joseph Fielding Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, vol. 5, p. 128

"We are told in the scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God in the flesh....how are children begotten? I answer, just as Jesus was begotten of his Father. The Christian denominations believe that Christ was
begotten not of God, but of the spirit that overshadowed his mother. This is nonsense. Why will they not believe the Father when He says that Jesus Christ is His Only Begotten Son? Why will they try to explain this truth away and make mystery of it?"
~Joseph F. Smith, Box Elder Times, Sep.22, 1914

"Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh ..."
~First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, 1916, God the Father

More recent:

"Christ Not Begotten of Holy Ghost ...Christ was begotten of God. He was not born without the aid of Man, and that Man was God!"
~ Joseph Fielding Smith,Doctrines of Salvation, 1954, 1:18

"Christ was Begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" ~Bruce R McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pg.547

"And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events, for he is the Son of God, and that designation means what it says"
~Bruce R McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pg.742

"Now, we are told in scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father ...Jesus is the only person who had our Heavenly Father as the father of his body"
~Joseph F Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pp.125,126

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints proclaims that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in the most literal sense. The body in which He performed His mission in the flesh was sired by that same Holy Being we worship as God, our Eternal Father."
~Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of ET Benson, p. 6

"For Latter-day Saints, the paternity of Jesus is not obscure. He was the literal, biological son of an immortal, tangible Father and Mary, a mortal woman (see Virgin Birth). Jesus is the only person born who deserves the title "the Only Begotten Son of God" (John 3:16; Benson, p. 3; see Jesus Christ: Only Begotten in the Flesh). He was not the son of the Holy Ghost; it was only through the Holy Ghost that the power of the Highest overshadowed Mary" (Luke 1:35; 1 Ne. 11:19). (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Vol.2, Jesus Christ, Fatherhood And Sonship

"Thus, God the Father became the literal father of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only person on earth to be born of a mortal mother, and an immortal father."
~Gospel Principles, 1997 edition, p 57

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints proclaims that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in the most literal sense. The body in which He performed His mission in the flesh was sired by that same Holy Being we worship as God, our Eternal Father. Jesus was not the son of Joseph, nor was He begotten by the Holy Ghost. He is the Son of the Eternal Father."
~ Come unto Christ, p. 4

I can keep going. Ldsfaqs is a liar.

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[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

PS Doctor CamNC4Me, Saludos me paisano cholito. Quien fue su presidente?

Hola Lulu,

Esencialmente el fue Presidente Openshaw, quien servia de 1990 hasta 1992. Una cuenta interesante... Fue robada completamente, y estoy diciendo como todo sus poseciones, como... Todo... en 1991. Los ladrones se vestian como movers, estacionado un moving van al frente do su casa y casualmente vacilaron la casa. Lol. Pobrecito.

- VRDRC

[Guest]

PS Doctor CamNC4Me, Saludos me paisano cholito. Quien fue su presidente?

Hola Lulu,

Esencialmente el fue Presidente Openshaw, quien servia de 1990 hasta 1992. Una cuenta interesante... Fue robada completamente, y estoy diciendo como todo sus poseciones, como... Todo... en 1991. Los ladrones se vestian como movers, estacionado un moving van al frente do su casa y casualmente vacilaron la casa. Lol. Pobrecito.

- VRDRC

Que suerte que los misionarios no tienen muchas pertenecencias.

Usted is muy jovensito. Yo estaba por 1970 con Presidente Driggs. La Mision Andina fe todo el paiz. Conoci a Lima, Huancayo, Arriquipa y Juliciaca, y por su pesto un viaje a Cuzco y Machu Pichu.

The Dr. shares how his apartment was stripped by thiefs disguised as movers.

I reponded,

Lucky, missionaries don't own much.

You're young. I was there in the '70's with Pres. Driggs. The Andes-Peru Mission covered the whole country. I was in Lima, Huancayo, Arequipa and Juliaca, and, of course, I took a trip to Cuzco and Machu Pichu.

[Guest]

Depends on which interpretation you hold to.
Traditionally it always referred to the conception by Mary of Jesus, but there have been those who have tried to extend it to Mary and Anne. The confusion has occurred because it was Mary who "conceived", but when people talked about the "conception of Mary", some falsely attributed it to Anne when it was really talking about Mary's conception, which was her "conceiving" the Christ. Of course, Mary would have had to have been freed from sin at the moment of conception, furthering the confusion.

Basically, it's a doctrine that was ultimately perverted in the 1850's and a few times in the ages before from it's original meaning.

Don't believe everything you read in Wikipedia....

Plus, I'm using it in a more "generic" manner according to it's true meaning.
The conception of Mary to conceive the Christ was a "miracle", was "immaculate/divine", not sexual in nature.
I'm not making a Catholic doctrinal argument, I'm using the more generic and common meaning of the word.

Some one just threw up. Hate that smell.

http://www.nationalshrine.com/site/c.os ... 5/Home.htm

The Immaculate Conception is the Roman Catholic "Patron Saint" of the United States. As the Official Website states, The Immaculate Conception is a name for the Virgin, St. Mary, because she's, well, the Immaculate Conception. Note ldsfaq, St. Mary is the Immaculate Conception, not Jesus.

Because the Immaculate Conceoption is the Patron Saint of the United States, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception is a Holy Day of Obligation in the United States, meaning faithful Roman Catholics must hear Mass that day, December 8.

Now, ldsfaq, if you want to make up your own definitions like Droopy, you are free to do so but you are going to confuse the people who read you.

Or if you want to accuse Roman Catholics of doing the Mormon Newroom thing with their doctrine, the obligation is on you to provide references.

-- lulu, cleaning up around here, wish I could get rid of the smell.

[_Corpsegrinder]

The Father's Power overshadowed Mary and the Holy Ghost placed the Father's necessary matter to contribute his side of the DNA to Mary's Egg.

So...you're basically telling us the Holy Ghost used a turkey baster on Mary?

Dude, seriously, where's the fun in that?