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Have you ever read Vern Swanson's Dynasty of the Holy Grail: Mormonism's Sacred Bloodline? Thesis: Joseph Smith descended for JC. Joseph Smith, Sr. and Lucy rejoined the separated genetic lines. Interesting premise but when I tried to trace his footnotes back, they really didn't lead anywhere.


Did you read that as a TBM? I took a look at internet information, and decided that it wasn't worth reading. Am waiting on Mike Quinn's books on related issues.

Q: Is there any Jewish DNA among the purest of LDS royalty?
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MCB wrote:
Have you ever read Vern Swanson's Dynasty of the Holy Grail: Mormonism's Sacred Bloodline? Thesis: Joseph Smith descended for JC. Joseph Smith, Sr. and Lucy rejoined the separated genetic lines. Interesting premise but when I tried to trace his footnotes back, they really didn't lead anywhere.


Did you read that as a TBM? I took a look at internet information, and decided that it wasn't worth reading. Am waiting on Mike Quinn's books on related issues.

Q: Is there any Jewish DNA among the purest of LDS royalty?



No, not as a TBM. I'm only interested in what the early members thought, I don't think there is any Jewish DNA among even the impure LDS royalty. And Swanson certainly doesn't show it.

Is there a connection between English Israelite-ism and Mormonism, the question just keeps buzzing in my head? It seems to pop up here and there at the edges and I keep wondering if there is more to it (not in a literal sense) but in terms of what the old timers thought they were about.

Somewhere between Jesus in England and Jesus in America, the redeemer nation, Jerusalem in England and in Jackson County, there has to be some sort of connection. But then again, maybe not.

Swanson isn't worth what I paid for it (although the photo plates are quite lovely). I've tried to mine the footnotes but not found much of value.

I didn't know Quinn was working on something related. Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye out for it.

In the mean time, here's another round of Jerusalem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKRHWT6xdEU

I love bombastic patriotic music.
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gdemetz wrote: My statement was that it didn't always mean wine as we think of it today, and the verse I gave showed that.


Good point. Bulk Process had yet to be invented and Ripple, Thunderbird and Mogen David 20/20 were still over two thousand of years away.
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Was anyone else here taught that many of the early apostles of the restoration were the direct descendants of Jesus?


No.

Or was I the only one taught that in CES preparation classes?


Got a reference?
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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I didn't know Quinn was working on something related. Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye out for it.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Mormon-Hierar ... 1560850604
http://www.amazon.com/The-Mormon-Hierar ... y_b_text_b
Have been available quite a long time.

Is there a connection between English Israelite-ism and Mormonism, the question just keeps buzzing in my head?
It is a Masonic thing.
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MCB wrote:
I didn't know Quinn was working on something related. Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye out for it.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Mormon-Hierar ... 1560850604
http://www.amazon.com/The-Mormon-Hierar ... y_b_text_b
Have been available quite a long time.

Is there a connection between English Israelite-ism and Mormonism, the question just keeps buzzing in my head?
It is a Masonic thing.



I see your Quinn point now. Thanks.

A Masonic thing, but broader than that? The hymn Jerusalem seems pretty all inclusive, at least for the English.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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bcspace wrote:
SteelHead wrote:Was anyone else here taught that many of the early apostles of the restoration were the direct descendants of Jesus?
No.


Wow, now there's a universal statement. Can I see your survey design?

PS, note how including the name of the person being quoted makes the thread and posts easier to follow and respond to.
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A Masonic thing, but broader than that? The hymn Jerusalem seems pretty all inclusive, at least for the English.
Masonry was predominant among the upper classes-- all those men's clubs--get into some of the more obscure short stories of Kipling, for example. Permeated.
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MCB wrote:
A Masonic thing, but broader than that? The hymn Jerusalem seems pretty all inclusive, at least for the English.
Masonry was predominant among the upper classes-- all those men's clubs--get into some of the more obscure short stories of Kipling, for example. Permeated.


There's nothing obscure about The Man Who Would Be King.
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That, too!! I had access to a lot of Kipling growing up!! Been years, I just remember bits and pieces.
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