Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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Buffalo wrote: It's pretty sad that faithful Mormons don't learn anything about sex, though.


You gotta be kidding. I don't that one can make such generalizations. These days, the sexual is everywhere and learning about sex is easy. Plus, we also have european Mormons who know a lot about sex, especially the converts who are now faithful.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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café crema wrote:I found three things about "ex-Mormon culture" hard to understand. The first was the need to explain yourself, so many sites have "stickies" with letters written to family, friends, fellow ward members and even acquaintances. While I can see addressing family, I can't see why it's so important to explain your thoughts, feelings and actions to the rest of them. Letters are put up as examples, cautionary tales, others are put up for review or criticism. I just don't get it.

The second was about temple rituals and what was found disturbing about them. I know we can't talk about them on this forum but I'll try alluding to them..... I find "I promise, cross my heart hope to die, stick a needle in my eye" less disturbing than playing group "doctor".

And last is the alcohol thing, ex-Mormons seem to obsess over it just as they do with the letters and explanations they give to family members. Again it's something I just don't get.


I think that you are referring to exmormon internet culture but not to exmormon culture in general. They are two separate things. Not all exmormons are on the internet, in fact, most aren't. However, to be accepted by the internet exmormon community, certain traits need to be observed: consume alcohol, watch porn, post a letter to the family, have bitterness, have resentment, etc are all apart of group acceptance for the posters on the board. And one feels one with the community by following the board's lead.

But the majority of exmos are not on the internet.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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MCB wrote:I fit in well, having been pressed into the mold, yet still having never been a member of LDS. Always trying to please, yet never meeting up to their standards.


You have been around exmormon boards for so long, that all have made you an honorary exmo. You fit right in. But since you have never been a Mormon, and seem to focus on the negatives from exmo boards to get your judgements of the LDS church and its members, you can never actually be one of 'good ol' boys' and your opinions about Mormons and the Mormon church will always be out of balance or clouded because of your lack of real experience on the inside of the LDS church that you would have if you were a member.

Let me put it this way: if I hung out on anticatholic boards and received my information from such sources, and have never been a member of the catholic church, and I post my opinions about catholics and the catholic church which are in general negative, well...do you see a problem?
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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Well, I was an ex-mo and consumed A LOT of alcohol, watched porn (lol, and made some myself), post a letter to the family (mmmm, no - I just moved away), have bitterness (nope - I was partying and too drunk to care), have resentment (same - didn't care), and I thought Mormons were loonies and was so happy to get away from them. Then I got better and said oops, my bad.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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Tobin wrote:Well, I was an ex-mo and consumed A LOT of alcohol, watched porn (lol, and made some myself), post a letter to the family (mmmm, no - I just moved away), have bitterness (nope - I was partying and too drunk to care), have resentment (same - didn't care), and I thought Mormons were loonies and was so happy to get away from them. Then I got better and said oops, my bad.


But did you post your experiences on the internet on an exmo site to get kudos and that loving feeling? I also have a hunch that most have an active imagination and never do what they say they do to the extent that they claim. I have one poster in mind from this board.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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why me wrote:
Buffalo wrote: It's pretty sad that faithful Mormons don't learn anything about sex, though.


You gotta be kidding. I don't that one can make such generalizations. These days, the sexual is everywhere and learning about sex is easy. Plus, we also have european Mormons who know a lot about sex, especially the converts who are now faithful.


You were never a Mormon, so your commentary on this subject is meaningless. You never obeyed the law of chastity.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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Do you think this is more pronounced in Utah, where non-Mormonism has always been the counterculture? Even after someone realizes the church isn't True, it's still difficult to shake off a lifetime of conditioning that non-Mormonism equals bad behavior, and good behavior implies belief.
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Re: Never-Mo commentary on Ex-Mo culture.

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True, it's still difficult to shake off a lifetime of conditioning that non-Mormonism equals bad behavior, and good behavior implies belief.

Mormons perceive the opposite. In Mormon-dominated areas, Mormons believe that non-Mormons participate in bad behavior and Mormons do not behave badly. Part of this has to do with jack-Mormon rebellion against the impossible LDS behavioral standards. However, jacks are still Mormons, culturally speaking, even if they have been ex'ed for their bad behavior.
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