John Gee responds

[_Kishkumen]

I thought Gee and Hauglid were bosom buddies.

Why did Gee slam the door in their faces?

Maybe Gee takes his cues from the learned Herr Schryver.

[_Carton]

I thought Gee and Hauglid were bosom buddies.

Why did Gee slam the door in their faces?

Maybe Gee takes his cues from the learned Herr Schryver.

I apologize for being so dense about some things, but what is the context of your reply? It must be something that came down before I happened on the scene.

[_CaliforniaKid]

The apology story is one I deliberately haven't been disseminating, beyond commiserating with a few friends. My failure to mend fences with Gee is a source of grief for me, but in the absence of a reopening of communication, I figure the next-best-thing is detente. To that end, I've been avoiding direct engagement with Gee as much as possible. Even in my recent critique of the missing papyrus theory in the JWHA Journal, I deliberately omitted any mention of Gee in the text of the paper except in a single paragraph where I felt it was unavoidable.

So I'd prefer if we don't make a big issue of this.

(By the way, he didn't slam the door. Just closed it.)

[_Doctor Scratch]

I don't understand Gee's hostility towards you, CK. Why is he so angry and upset? It's just bizarre.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Maybe Gee takes his cues from the learned Herr Schryver.

I apologize for being so dense about some things, but what is the context of your reply? It must be something that came down before I happened on the scene.

I don't want to speak for Kishkumen, but some of the backstory to the remark has to do with the fact that Will Schryver was, on some level, "working with" John Gee. Schryver delivered some paper of Gee's at one of the FAIR Conferences, as I recall, because Gee either couldn't make it, or he was unwilling to personally take credit for the crappiness of his own work: so he had Schryver do it. (And if I'm not mistaken, Schryver actually denounced this Gee paper. That's how bizarre the world of Mopologetics is.)

I know less about what is up with Hauglid, though I was told that there are certain key forces in the Maxwell Institute that really dislike him. Some people are supposedly angry with him for failing to produce better Book of Abraham apologetics, and plus he played in role in them putting the kibbosh on Schryver's Book of Abraham publication. But as for why Gee would personally dislike him---who knows? Gee seems to pretty much hate everybody. Attempting to defend the impossible has warped him.

[Guest]

I have been told by higher powers at Sic et Non that I should be calling you all on the carpet for digging at Dr. Gee because of his trip to Paris.

As the resident "Seedy Academician" (so dubbed by the inimitable Bob Crockett), I am informed that it is my duty to tell you that we professor types travel the globe to represent our schools. He has even kindly provided you with some of my more exotic destinations (like Cincinnati) and the years I traveled to these places, so that you can do a little detective work and discover my real identity. (Not that this was ever his intention.)

He also informs me that I am a self-avowed Democrat, which is news to me and would be news to the Democratic Party, if they cared. I guess the fact that I am not a huge fan of the New Gilded Age has registered with him and led him to form certain conclusions, which, although understandable, are nonetheless incorrect.

In any case, it is true that, although I am not a plutocrat with the funds to almost single-handedly fund the farcical campaign of a washed up and disgraced former Speaker of the House, I have traveled to exotic destinations with minimal support (paying up to half the airfare!) from various institutions where I studied and worked, in the pursuit of my PhD and now tenure. I don't know how my funding compares with that extended to Herr Gee, but my initial guess would be that the LDS Church is about as generous with its travel money as the penurious state of ***** is with its spoiled children, the professors, whose retirement funds were recently slashed by a large percentage by the Republican governor.* (Evidently, my swanky 5-figure salary, which equals some thousands less than high-school-educated employees working in auto factories used to get, is too plush to allow me the further luxury of a secure retirement.)

So, I hope that covers it. Oh, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.[/outrage]

*It may be, however, that BYU is more generous with travel funds, depending on the value of the mission. I have no idea, nor do I care, why John Gee is in Paris. Hopefully he has a good time, and hopefully it transforms his personality so fully that he actually treats people like Chris Smith with a modicum of courtesy, especially when they are making overtures to him in the interest of peace and reconciliation.

[_zeezrom]

Did Gee get to see the Orsay? That would be heaven.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Did Gee get to see Paris? God, how I would love to go there.

Maybe I could tell the Church I'm ready to investigate alternate garment designs and publish my work in Vogue Paris. All I need is airfare and a small stipend.

No, you need a PhD and you need to agree to follow Mopologetic orthodoxy.

In all seriousness, though, half the time these guys don't even seem to be doing anything "academic." I mean, Hamblin is over there in Israel horsing around, huffing up the stairs and taking videos of people's butts, for crying out loud. And DCP, who is supposedly a Middle Eastern Studies guy, is flying off to Melbourne, of all places. Meanwhile, Gee the Egyptologist is playing Indiana Jones (or what was the name of the guy in The Da Vinci Code?) in Paris. It's like they deliberately pick the conferences that are in the most exotic locales. They can't claim it's about tenure, since BYU doesn't have tenure. It's about them getting to take swanky vacations.

[_Kishkumen]

I know less about what is up with Hauglid, though I was told that there are certain key forces in the Maxwell Institute that really dislike him.

Schryver was convinced that Hauglid was conspiring against him.

[_Doctor Scratch]

I know less about what is up with Hauglid, though I was told that there are certain key forces in the Maxwell Institute that really dislike him.

Schryver was convinced that Hauglid was conspiring against him.

Yes, but why would that translate into Gee being angry at Hauglid?