Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

[_Droopy]

Rush Limbaugh didn't go to Vietnam because he had a cyst on his ass. Talk about a wimp!

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilonidal_cyst

The relevance of which escapes me...into deep space.

[_Droopy]

Where a vacuum similar to the one between your ears ensures little resistance to increasing velocity.

[_Bond James Bond]

Rush Limbaugh didn't go to Vietnam because he had a cyst on his ass. Talk about a wimp!

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilonidal_cyst

The relevance of which escapes me...into deep space.

You called Jon Stewart a left-wing wimp. I pointed out that Limbaugh wimped out as well, since you suggested he wasn't a wimp.

[_Bond James Bond]

I'm glad the ongoing debate about the Vietnam War has somehow infected the Terrestrial Kingdom. It'll takeover the board yet.

[_aussieguy55]

At least Stewart gets conservatives on to interview, the latest being David Barton, who says the left are saying all kinds of evil things about Thomas Jefferson. Often the extended interviews he places on the web are a gem. He has had several of the FOX crew on. I understand that one of his interns in a female LDS comedian, one job she does is place beeps over Jon's F Bombs.

[_dougreese]

In the Off Topic forum not that long ago Droopy posted an article written by one of the main people behind the swiftboating of John Kerry. To swiftboat someone is now a term that means to try and bring someone down with a dishonest smear campaign.

There's only one fundamental problem here, D, and that's that fact that all of the claims the Swifties made regarding the past behavior and character of the traitorous John Kerry, were, for all intents, true. That is easily ascertained by observation of the overwhelming concurrence of virtually the entire chain of command under which Kerry served, and the vast majority of those who were eyewitness to the events that occurred.

The "vast majority of those who were eyewitness to the events that occurred"?

Actually, it was either very few (Bronze Star incident), or one (1st & 2nd Purple Hearts) or none (Silver Star incident). Which is to say that overall, there were very few guys who were present for the medal incidents who had something negative to say about them/Kerry.

Doug Reese

[_krose]

This was actually one of the poorest segments John has done in a long time.

The only example he had of anyone from the left actually "trashing" the LDS church was O'Donnell, who has a history of saying dumb things about the church since acting in Big Love (I love Lawrence, but I wish he would stop that). The preacher who said Mormons are not Christians is a conservative.

Governor Schweitzer was merely pointing out the political reality that Romney can't talk about his family's roots in Mexico because he wants to avoid talking about his family's polygamist history. It's completely true and totally fair, just as it's true that Obama's father was a Muslim, which is something he doesn't want to dwell on. (I would never assume it was a partisan attack on me or my religion if someone said my great-grandfather was a polygamist. It's true.)

Martin Bashir was criticizing Romney for telling blatant lies in his stump speech. So he looked up verses in the Book of Mormon and D&C that said liars would go to hell, and quoted them. What on earth is wrong with holding a person to what his own scriptures say about his behavior?

John also got the pre-1978 racism wrong by saying black people were not allowed in "the clergy." That makes it sound much more harmless than it really was.

[_krose]

He points out true things through a show that satirizes the failings of the media.

So does Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and many other radio talk show hosts, but without Stewart's standard left-wing limp.

Isn't satire supposed to be funny and entertaining? Those guys definitely are not. The closest thing to satire on that list is Beck, honestly. The others are no more than partisan blowhards whose shtick is to pander to the anger and hatred in their listeners. They come across as bitter and mean rather than funny.

The advantage entertainers on the left have is that they are actually funny, regardless of whether they are being political. John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Stephanie Miller, Bill Maher and others came from comedy, and their goal is first to be funny, then to make a political point.

Beck at least has a shock-jock background going for him, which sometimes comes through on his radio show when he's not trying to be really serious and nutso-apocalyptic.

But hey, at least you have Victoria Jackson and Dennis Miller (he helpfully laughs at his own material so you know when it's supposed to be funny). Good stuff.

[_EAllusion]

Martin Bashir was criticizing Romney for telling blatant lies in his stump speech. So he looked up verses in the Book of Mormon and D&C that said liars would go to hell, and quoted them. What on earth is wrong with holding a person to what his own scriptures say about his behavior?

What Barshir did was assinine and hypocritical. Why do this only with Mormonism for a Mormon? All presidential candidates 1) prevaricate and 2) profess to be part of a religion where this is condemned. It's ordinary and Romney only gets singled out because he is the Republican nominee and the quasi-exotic nature of Mormonism can be exploited. Moreover, the idea that is really risking eternal damnation by lying according to the Mormon religion is just a moronic understanding of LDS theology. So his argument wasn't a well-researched one. It was a facile attempt at polemic.

John also got the pre-1978 racism wrong by saying black people were not allowed in "the clergy." That makes it sound much more harmless than it really was.

Yes. People don't always understand what the "priesthood" is in the LDS faith compared to almost all other Christians.

[_lostindc]

droopy is a very weird fella. At times I feel like he is pulling a Steven Cobert just to mess around whereas other times I feel like he is just brief step away from going on a shooting spree targeting females and minorities.

Wanted to add: this means droopy is like in a bishopric.