When Did LDS Leaders Change the Law of Chastity?

[_jskains]

Oh, you meant your drama. I getcha now.

I'm not the one making a stink to demonize the Church with a single word. I leave that drama to you.

JMS

[_just me]

Oh, you meant your drama. I getcha now.

I'm not the one making a stink to demonize the Church with a single word. I leave that drama to you.

JMS

Posting a thread on a message board is "making a stink?" LMAO

Hey, welcome back to the board!

[_Drifting]

It has changed from allowing for sexual relations between people who are not legally married to only allowing for those legally married to have sexual relations. That's a pretty big change.

It's merely a change in how a legitimate spouse is identified, not in any of the principles behind the LoCh itself.

Where was this change officially published?

[_just me]

The church used to recognize couples who were not legally married and give them the church's blessing to have sexual relations.
The church no longer does that. Non-married couples are not ever given the church's blessing to have sexual relations.

[_Phaedrus Ut]

I think the distinction is most important in the case of divorced couples. Imagine a scenario of a Utah couple temple married young at 21 divorced 9 years later but still friends. A moment of inspiration comes to the newly single wife that since they are married in the temple they are still married in the eyes of God and that should allow her to have some marital benefits she no longer has at home.

Upon renewing her temple recommend the Bishop discovered this arrangement and determined she needed some formal discipline. So I can saw at least 10 years ago the above arrangement wasn't kosher in the eyes of a Bishop.

Phaedrus

[_lulu]

Non-married couples are not ever given the church's blessing to have sexual relations.

And some married couples aren't either.

I think the distinction is most important in the case of divorced couples. Phaedrus

I think the distinction is most important in the case of legally married same sex couples.

[_beefcalf]

Just a quick observation:

The 1990 changes to the temple endowment included the following (paraphrasing):

before: '...shall not have sexual intercourse except with their legal spouse...'

after: '...shall not have sexual relations except with their legal spouse

I can only imagine that the change from 'intercourse' to 'relations' was due to a not insignificant number of members who defended their illicit sexual activity in church courts by stating that it wasn't technically 'intercourse'.

Just guessing, though...

[_Drifting]

Just a quick observation:

The 1990 changes to the temple endowment included the following (paraphrasing):

before: '...shall not have sexual intercourse except with their legal spouse...'

after: '...shall not have sexual relations except with their legal spouse

I can only imagine that the change from 'intercourse' to 'relations' was due to a not insignificant number of members who defended their illicit sexual activity in church courts by stating that it wasn't technically 'intercourse'.

Just guessing, though...

There was no need to drag Bill Clinton into this...

[_ludwigm]

the change from 'intercourse' to 'relations'

...need to understand that certain words in the Mormon vocabulary have slightly different meanings and connotations... (http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/a ... n-doctrine)

[_brade]

It has changed from allowing for sexual relations between people who are not legally married to only allowing for those legally married to have sexual relations. That's a pretty big change.

It's merely a change in how a legitimate spouse is identified, not in any of the principles behind the LoCh itself.

bcspace, will you help us out and write out the principles behind the LoCh for us?