M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

[_Wiki Wonka]

Here was my problem:Mercyngrace came to MDD and lectured the defenders about behavior and higher standards. But she refuses to give the same lecture to the critics here. Thus, my problem. Being a critic does not give one the permission to lower their standards to an ape. Likewise, defenders of Mormonism can take to task critics for bashing or mocking the LDS church. And they can certainly engage them in hard hitting debate without a lecture from Mercyngrace.

And that was my point. I have not seen Mercyngrace defend the LDS church against the critics on this board. But since I am not monitoring her posts, she may have done so. But I haven't seen it.

We are held to higher standards. That's what the whole "turn the other cheek" thing is about.

There is a choice:
1) I can choose to spend my valuable time attempting to modify the behavior of those with whom I might disagree.
2) I can simply behave in the manner in which I would like others to treat me.

I cannot change the way others behave - I can only control the way I react to them. For example, I probably disagree with Fence Sitter on a lot of things, but I agree with him on this point. This is probably the most accurate statement made on this thread so far:

You know, M&G, should she choose, could easily defend Mormonism here without even debating an issue, should she limit herself to the kind of participation she has so far.

WW

[_Carton]

Too bad Schryver got banned from MDD, otherwise I'm sure he'd be over there predicting mercyngrace's imminent apostasy.

[_mercyngrace]

This type of nonsensical post is representative of why I believe that apologetics have no place on message boards. This attitude completely contradicts the scriptures and everything that we are taught in Church. I wish that every online LDS poster was like M&G.

You have absolutely got to be kidding me.

WW

Thank you, WW, I can't tell you how much that means to me.

[_Carton]

Let's see now ... who's on Schryver's apostate list now?

Kevin Graham
Paul Osborne
David Bokovoy
consiglieri
mercyngrace
Brant Gardner
Brian Hauglid

Anyone I've missed?

[_mercyngrace]

Here was my problem:Mercyngrace came to MDD and lectured the defenders about behavior and higher standards. But she refuses to give the same lecture to the critics here. Thus, my problem. Being a critic does not give one the permission to lower their standards to an ape. Likewise, defenders of Mormonism can take to task critics for bashing or mocking the LDS church. And they can certainly engage them in hard hitting debate without a lecture from Mercyngrace.

Why Me,

It's time to put this big lie to rest.

I was in a conversation with CASteinman that was a tangent on the "Sinkhole" thread. After I wrote in direct response to him, that "For all my faults, I guess I'm like Nephi in this way. I have a hard time giving up on anyone", you took a side swipe at me and you tried to tell another faithful LDS (me) what standard of behavior you expected. In post 42, you injected yourself into the conversation with these words, quoting my statement above:

I would hope that you will challenge the more mocking and bashing posts on the other board now that you are posting there. People on that board do need some saving. However, if you ignore or show support for their more rabid posts, I may find you to be a hypocrite.

For example, who would you want to save? On the other board, there are exmos and NOMs. Are they fair game to save? And would you be trying to save them and bring them back into the fold? Or are we over here fair game for you to save?

You basically put me on notice that if I didn't do what you thought I should, I would be a hypocrite. Who's setting standards for whom?

It was 19 posts later than I defined my personal standard of behavior by quoting President Uchtdorf, prefacing the quote with the phrase, Here's how I see things.

Not only did I not declare any expectations for you or anyone else, I concluded the post in this way: Also, for what it's worth, I can't save anyone and I have no delusions to that end. I can only be what I believe. If you see me behaving in a way that is unseemly on the other board, feel free to call me out. Not a single reference to anyone's behavior but my own.

So not only is your accusation false, you have met your own standard by participating in baseless personal attacks upon a faithful member and defender of the church. By your own measuring stick, you are a hypocrite.

[_Kishkumen]

Let's see now ... who's on Schryver's apostate list now?

Kevin Graham
Paul Osborne
David Bokovoy
consiglieri
mercyngrace
Brant Gardner
Brian Hauglid

Anyone I've missed?

Wiki Wonka?

[_cafe crema]

So Mercyngrace is expected to take on "critics" of DCP, never mind that there is a large cadre of people doing just that, and refrain from asking her/his fellow LDS to be more charitable and Christlike. She is not to address the behavior of LDS posters, though I don't see where she supposedly did this to any extent. This is simply a glaring example of why me's double-standard. On CAF he constantly excoriated Catholics to admonish their fellow Catholics on their (according to why me) uncharitable, un-Catholic and un-Christlike behavior. They were not to call LDS on their "mocking and bashing" of Catholic beliefs and members, their bad behavior was acceptable and beyond comment.

Yep, just another example of his hypocrisy but it is also a demonstration of the delight he takes in stirring up animosity toward others. Egging on his fellow bullies and escalating the nastiness with further negative commentary about his chosen target. Certainly a contemptible vile little man.

[_Molok]

Let me spell it out for you: this board is a crazy place. .

Yes, but the crazy factor goes down drastically when you aren't posting.

[_why me]

On CAF he constantly excoriated Catholics to admonish their fellow Catholics on their (according to why me) uncharitable, un-Catholic and un-Christlike behavior.

This is true. The antimormons are CAF were terrible and very uncatholic. They mocked and bashed the LDS faith and mocked LDS posters. They were uncharitable. But I am not alone in my opinion. Many catholics share my opinion and some have posted on MDD about it. And you...never took the haters to task. And taliban catholics are still bashing Mormonism with uncharitble comments. And this is why your words ring hollow. You do not chastise your fellow catholic posters for such unchristlike behavior.

[_why me]

So not only is your accusation false, you have met your own standard by participating in baseless personal attacks upon a faithful member and defender of the church. By your own measuring stick, you are a hypocrite.

I don't think that you know what a personal attack is. Read this thread and see what people have said about me. Then, you will read some personal attacks.

Taking you to task is not a personal attack. It is calling a person a name or making terrible personable accusations about someone plus other things that can be called a personal attack.