South Park: Joseph Smith Story

[_Tobin]

Once again, if there is a problem it is always your fault

When isn't there a problem? Are you really going to pretend this life is perfect and ideal? The question is, what are you going to do about it? I think the choice is pretty clear: remain as who and what you are, or approach the Lord and through him be changed.

[_son of Ishmael]

And if the Lord doesn't see fit to change me or comunicate with me then it is something I am doing wrong. In other words, it is always my fault

[_Tobin]

And if the Lord doesn't see fit to change me or comunicate with me then it is something I am doing wrong. In other words, it is always my fault

Then have some faith, even as a mustard seed.

[_sock puppet]

And if the Lord doesn't see fit to change me or comunicate with me then it is something I am doing wrong. In other words, it is always my fault

Then have some faith, even as a mustard seed.

Yup, that 'god' of yours prefers to entrust something (?) to those who act in the absence of evidence and reasoned conclusions drawn from that evidence, rather than those who draw such conclusions.

It's sort of like this. Suppose you are planning your estate. You have $10m. You want it administered after your death for your surviving spouse and children. Who do you pick to be the trustee? Someone who has a track record of acting on hunches? Or someone who evaluates facts and from those facts, draws a reasoned approach to take?

Hey, have faith, man. Just hand the $10m over to the guy who flies by the seat of his pants. That's the approach you attribute to your omniscient god. (I can't for the life of me figure why those who believe in god feel the need to make him out to be such a doofus.)

[_Themis]

Yup, Just follow Moroni's promise and pray. Didn't get an answer? You didn't pray hard enough! Pray harder. Still did not get an answer? Then you must be sinning. Just remember it is always your fault

Clearly you missed the point. Don't worry, I didn't get it either and left as well.
1) We don't get to make demands of God - that's your first mistake.
2) God already knows who and what you are. So trying or pretending to be something you aren't is never going to fool the Lord.
3) The Lord will decide if and when to answer you.

So you are either committed, no matter what to following, suffering the trials of the Lord, and seeking God or your aren't. It will never be a matter or how hard you try or wish or pray or whatever you think you are going to attempt here. It is what you are and have determined to be that matters. If you don't believe me, look hard at yourself right now and try to answer the question if you were the Lord, would you trust you given what you have done? Now, if you willing to change, be reborn through the grace of God, and follow the Lord - that is your decision. But don't approach it lightly and with the attitude that you can force the Lord to answer you. It is with dedication, long suffering, and humble patience that you accomplish this. Oh, and one last thing - it requires faith.

I know you wont listen, but I will repeat what beatie told you

I'm going to be frank and blunt. You have no idea what people here may or may not have done in regards to their search for truth. You are demonstrating arrogance by pretending otherwise.

If anyone is in need of an attitude change it is you. I don't know if anyone I know ever made demands of God with Moroni's promise, or were trying tom pretend to be something they were not with God. Most in the church didn't stop believing just because they didn't get an answer. Most of us think we did through spiritual experiences. Later I realized it is probably just ourselves. I still believed until I came across evidence like the Book of Abraham which proved Joseph was making it up.

[_Tobin]

I know you wont listen, but I will repeat what beatie told you

I'm going to be frank and blunt. You have no idea what people here may or may not have done in regards to their search for truth. You are demonstrating arrogance by pretending otherwise.

If anyone is in need of an attitude change it is you. I don't know if anyone I know ever made demands of God with Moroni's promise, or were trying tom pretend to be something they were not with God. Most in the church didn't stop believing just because they didn't get an answer. Most of us think we did through spiritual experiences. Later I realized it is probably just ourselves. I still believed until I came across evidence like the Book of Abraham which proved Joseph was making it up.

When you stand in opposition to God and the gospel, it is pretty clear where you stand Themis. And I'm not being arrogant stating that. This life is a time to prepare to meet God and it won't last forever. Afterwards, you will have to stand before God and account for yourself and where and with whom you choose to stand.

[_Tobin]

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It only seems that way to you sock puppet, but that is the nature of this life. It is an imperfect state of being in which we have to choose to trust in the Lord and believe in him; or remain as we are and stand before the Lord as we are and in that last day.

[_Themis]

When you stand in opposition to God and the gospel, it is pretty clear where you stand Themis. And I'm not being arrogant stating that. This life is a time to prepare to meet God and it won't last forever. Afterwards, you will have to stand before God and account for yourself and where and with whom you choose to stand.

Sorry but you don't really know what people have or haven't done in their search for God or truth. You really are arrogant to think you do. by the way I don't stand in any opposition of any God. I just don't see any reason to believe in them, especially the LDS one who obviously is a fantasy Joseph came up with.

[_Tobin]

When you stand in opposition to God and the gospel, it is pretty clear where you stand Themis. And I'm not being arrogant stating that. This life is a time to prepare to meet God and it won't last forever. Afterwards, you will have to stand before God and account for yourself and where and with whom you choose to stand.

Sorry but you don't really know what people have or haven't done in their search for God or truth. You really are arrogant to think you do. by the way I don't stand in any opposition of any God. I just don't see any reason to believe in them, especially the LDS one who obviously is a fantasy Joseph came up with.

And that is why I ignore you. You respond with statements asserting things I purportedly said that don't exist anywhere but in your head. Nothing in my statement above has anything to do with what you just said.

[_Themis]

And that is why I ignore you. You respond with statements asserting things I purportedly said that don't exist anywhere but in your head. Nothing in my statement above has anything to do with what you just said.

Yet why is it people like beastie say the same thing. You might want to think why more then just me see the same thing.

Yup, Mormons that don't follow Moroni's promise - out on their ear every time. Been there done that. Got the t-shirt and sunglasses to prove it.

This was your first post which was a obvious statement of what you thought other people were not doing.