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lulu, in response to Thews' normal asshattery wrote:I'm in touch with both my femine and masculine sides. "Answer what?" I posted a long historiographical piece on Christian theology. Oh, wait, I posted it twice. Once especially for you. If you can't find what you are to respond to, you can't find your balls with both hands.


Thanks for giving me my morning chuckle! LOL :lol:
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So is this why Gnostics are considered heretical, yet still Christian, but Mormons are considered non-Christian?

This is interesting stuff!

Within orthodox Christianity, the proper word is mystic. It is a continuum.
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MCB wrote:
So is this why Gnostics are considered heretical, yet still Christian, but Mormons are considered non-Christian?

This is interesting stuff!

Within orthodox Christianity, the proper word is mystic. It is a continuum.

Ah, OK.

So here is a question. What would the LDS Church have to do if it wanted to be considered part of mainstream Christianity?
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Regard the Book of Mormon as useful lit (particularly where it condemns modern Mormonism), and forget about the temple, for starters. And accept the Three in One, of course.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
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I am actually curious as to why President Hinckley campaigned so hard for Mormonism to be accepted as part of the mainstream Christian community. It seemed like he was going against the nature of Lehi's dream in the Book of Mormon, wanting to turn the modern Church into part of the Great and Spacious building.
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Samantabhadra wrote:lulu,

I will attempt to answer your question and I trust that if Thews disagrees with my response he will let us know.

The fact that many Christian churches have existed over the centuries does not in any way militate against the notion that the Mystical Body of Christ (a.k.a. the Church) is unitary. This indeed was the purpose of the early Councils, to set the bounds of the Church as being precisely unitary (or "One") as well as "Holy," "Universal" (== katholikos or "Catholic") and "Apostolic."

To reject the authority of the first Councils is by definition to position oneself outside of the Mystical Body of Christ. Mormons are not Christian because they believe that the bishops present at those Councils were apostates. I admit that the situation is somewhat more complicated when you consider pre-Conciliar Gnostic and/or Hermetic Christianities (plural), but the dividing line is and always has been the Nicene Creed.


Please define and provide 2 examples of each:

1. heretic
2. infidel
3. pagan
4. heathen
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MCB wrote:
So is this why Gnostics are considered heretical, yet still Christian, but Mormons are considered non-Christian?

This is interesting stuff!

Within orthodox Christianity, the proper word is mystic. It is a continuum.

The proper word for what?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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me
Within orthodox Christianity, the proper word is mystic. It is a continuum.

lulu
The proper word for what?

me
The orthodox Christian who stays within bounds, but has a Gnostic tendency would be a mystic.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
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MCB wrote:me
Within orthodox Christianity, the proper word is mystic. It is a continuum.

lulu
The proper word for what?

me
The orthodox Christian who stays within bounds, but has a Gnostic tendency would be a mystic.

It's your position that termologically orthodox Christianity would treat Basilides and Hildegard the same?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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My background is psychology and sociology. Please give me links.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
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