Confirmation of Developments?

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bcspace wrote:
I think this assessment is spot on. If bcspace is not accepting the emails as genuine, then he is asking the wrong questions.


Can you point to the post in which Scratchy converts his description from alleged to verified?

Certainly Mormon God has not abandoned you, bcspace. If you have any doubts about the e-mail, study it out earnestly, figure it out for yourself, then pray--and keep praying harder until you have convinced yourself that the HG has confirmed to you that the e-mail are real. Then, and only then, can you know.

Put not your trust in the arm of flesh, and 'reasoning'. Go ask the HG.
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Tator wrote:JV - good detective work

Indeed. Thanks for re-gauging that, JV.
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Shulem wrote:Follow the money trail and that's where you'll find thieves too. Hands in the cookie jar!

:lol:

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So appropo during the TSM administration. Love it, Paul. Most clever.
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Or is Bradford Scratch's sock puppet :surprised:
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Re: Confirmation of Developments?

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Dr. Shades wrote:
So, how did the Bradford e-mail leak even before DCP responded and sent his response to 18?
I can see only two possibilities:

  • M. Gerald Bradford **IS** Doctor Scratch's informant.
  • M. Gerald Bradford and Doctor Scratch are the same person.

Laugh if you want, but it certainly explains the MI "leaking like a sieve". . .


Don't think for a second that DCP isn't very worried about further intel being leaked. He should be terrified because it's apparent that Dr. Scratch's informant(s) is patient and has been operating right under DCP's nose all this time!

Just wait for the rest of the dirt to surface. I think the party is just beginning.

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Re: Confirmation of Developments?

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Can you point to the post in which Scratchy converts his description from alleged to verified?

Dude, Kevin Barney came forward and said this isn't a hoax. People on Dan Peterson's Facebook have asked him straight up if it is true and he doesn't respond. That's telling because Dan always denounces false rumors when he has the chance.


I'm not asking about the reality of DCP having resigned. I'm asking about the reality of the emails. Are they historical fiction from which anti-Mormon spin is being created?
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bcspace wrote:
I think this assessment is spot on. If bcspace is not accepting the emails as genuine, then he is asking the wrong questions.


Can you point to the post in which Scratchy converts his description from alleged to verified?


If we had any real proof of anything, then it would take away our free agency. But because the evidence is equally balanced for and against the authenticity of the emails, we can rely on faith.

And I don't need Scratch or anyone else to confirm anything. I have the witness of the Spirit, so I know that the emails are true. No facts or evidence can gainsay a true testimony.

The Maxwell Institute might leak like a sieve, but a testimony from the Spirit is tight like unto a dish.

bcspace wrote: I'm not asking about the reality of DCP having resigned. I'm asking about the reality of the emails. Are they historical fiction from which anti-Mormon spin is being created?


It is an easy thing for a man with extensive academic training to measure anti-Mormonism using the principles he has been taught in his professional training as his standard. In my mind it ought to be the other way around. An anti-Mormon ought always, particularly if he is pursuing extensive academic studies, to judge the professions of man against the revealed word of the Lord.
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Re: Confirmation of Developments?

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bcspace wrote:I'm not asking about the reality of DCP having resigned. I'm asking about the reality of the emails. Are they historical fiction from which anti-Mormon spin is being created?

Sounds as if you are asking whether or not the subject emails are analogous to the Book of Mormon. The evidence indicates that, unlike the Book of Mormon, the emails are not historical fiction.

(Funny you should bring up the idea of historical fiction. Have you been giving this idea some thought lately?)
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Re: Confirmation of Developments?

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Dr. Shades wrote:
sock puppet wrote:Of particular note to me, is that in DCP's response (that he copied to 18) he indicated that Bradford's e-mail was already being touted online by critics (i.e., here at MDB by Dr Scratch). That means that Bradford's e-mail was already leaked, before DCP then responded to Bradford and copied 18 with his reply.

So, how did the Bradford e-mail leak even before DCP responded and sent his response to 18?

I can see only two possibilities:

  • M. Gerald Bradford **IS** Doctor Scratch's informant.
  • M. Gerald Bradford and Doctor Scratch are the same person.

Laugh if you want, but it certainly explains the MI "leaking like a sieve". . .


Or....(and I find this the more likely scenario).....Bradford allowed another person to view the email, either through a bcc, or by simply showing him/her a print out, and that person is Scratch's informant.
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Re: Confirmation of Developments?

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(Funny you should bring up the idea of historical fiction. Have you been giving this idea some thought lately?)


Sure. I have always freely admitted that the Bible and Book of Mormon are, scientifically, nothing more than historical fiction because, for example, we will never have scientific evidence that Jesus is the son of God until he appears. But no anti Mormon has ever given me any substance or evidence in the unseen like God and the LDS Church has. You and Darth J's attempts at correlation are therefore in error.
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