Lest Ye Celebrate Too Heartily....

[_Chap]

I suspect that RayA simply finds criticism of the CoJCoLDS uncomfortable, despite his having left that church, and wants it to stop.

True. I plead guilty to feeling uncomfortable about the criticism.

I can't stop it anymore than I can halt Niagara Falls. I feel helpless. Regardless of my puny input here - it will go on. With or without me. And I don't even know why I care.

... SNIP <quotation from early 19th C. religious fiction> ...

Frankly, I don't know why you care either. (And why do I care what you care about, one might ask?)

[_Drifting]

Frankly, I don't know why you care either. (And why do I care what you care about, one might ask?)

One might ask if one cared...

[_Ludd]

But victories are not always won, in fact seldom won, by timid, shy, "humble" and retiring characters.

This is not a war.

Sure it is! It's ALL a war, and we are all combatants. Why deny it when it's as plain as can be to see?

"We are all enlisted til the conflict is o'er. Happy are we. Happy are we!"

[_Wilma Fingerdoo]

Orgasmic awesomeness covered in chocolate and bacon.
H.

Mmmmmmmmmm Bacon

[_Ludd]

Orgasmic awesomeness covered in chocolate and bacon.
H.

Mmmmmmmmmm Bacon

Mmmmmmmmm ... chocolate body paint!

[_RayAgostini]

Frankly, I don't know why you care either. (And why do I care what you care about, one might ask?)

Maybe I should just "come out" and say that I have a burning testimony that the Book of Mormon is true.

It's not something that I logically understand, but it's something that I deeply feel.

[Guest]

If I said that, anywhere on this thread, I'll grant your "comprehension" of the other things I've posted.

You said something that alluded to that effect on a reply to Kishkumen in this thread.

Really, you bore me, but you fit in here very well. Your posts could easily be cut-and-paste from the thousands of other posts that have been done over the years, which is why I, for the most part, don't bother much with boards anymore. DCP learned his lesson about this board ages ago, but unfortunately, I haven't.

I am sorry I bored you. You are bored, but yet several posts later you are still on here engaging me. One thing that I do when I become bored is I usually move on to something I find more engaging and enjoyable. It makes life more satisfactory.

It gets tiring, very tiring, going over the same things again and again, and I don't have much energy left.

I know what you mean.

Are you happy being in, or out of the Church? Are you happy believing it's a delusion? Are you happy that Joseph Smith was a false prophet and Mormonism a delusion? Are you happy that it's all a sham and a fraud?

I am happy very happy being out of the church. I see life differently and I like what I see and my relationship with my wife and family has been deeply improved. I am not happy that Mormonism is not what it claims to be. sometimes I feel like the 26 years I was involved in the church was a waste and clouded my judgement on some significant moments in my life. Luckily I am fairly young and am happy that I came to this realization earlier rather than 40 years from now. I reflect on my mission with bittersweet thoughts. On one hand, I enjoyed the journey and the great friendships I made, on the other hand I feel guilty for baptizing all the people I did and I hope I did not cause them any undo harm or stress later on in life.

go your way, and whine no more. Eat, drink and be merry, and don't waste a second of it, for tomorrow you die.

Thanks for the advice except I don't drink. Wait a minute? Do you think I left the church cuz I wanted to sin and party it up? I left because I was offended. Just kidding. I left strictly because after studying the church and its history and scientific problems facing the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham. About 9-10 years ago I was preparing a lesson for my Gospel Doctrine class. I decided to turn to the internet and you probably know the rest of the story. It took several years of study before I reached the final conclusion. It didn't happen overnight. All in all, I can trace it to not following the admonishment in the lesson manual that said something to the effect of "Don't seek or use any material that is in this manual or the scriptures while preparing the lessons." Now I know why that caveat is in there.

You have a good night as well.

[_Drifting]

Frankly, I don't know why you care either. (And why do I care what you care about, one might ask?)

Maybe I should just "come out" and say that I have a burning testimony that the Book of Mormon is true.

It's not something that I logically understand, but it's something that I deeply feel.

Really?

[_RayAgostini]

Really?

Really.

[_RayAgostini]

Thanks for the advice except I don't drink. Wait a minute? Do you think I left the church cuz I wanted to sin and party it up? I left because I was offended. Just kidding. I left strictly because after studying the church strictly based on its history and scientific problems facing the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham. About 9-10 years ago I was preparing a lesson for my Gospel Doctrine class. I decided to turn to the internet and you probably know the rest of the story. It took several years of study before I reached the final conclusion. It didn't happen overnight.

I am familiar with it. There's no need to turn on your religion, or come here and add to the mockery of it. You should respect it, and look at all the positive things it has added to your life, instead of the negative things. Don't add your voice to this chorus of discontent. But the choice is yours.