Alternative Angel of the West?

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Blixa wrote:Sorry. I think it's visibly the worst of the Moronae(?). I wish I could find a list with every temple and which Moroni is on it.


Oh, I wasn't bothered by it. I am not at all close to the Quilters.
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The work, called 'a monumental modern allegory of truth and justice', is thought to be the most recent piece in hirst's 'virgin mother' series." Here she is:


I like it. She's defending her unborn child from the likes of abortion and illegal immigration.

Since the location is apparently a "blackspot" for teen pregnancy, it's being called by detractors "Belly of the South".
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[racist mode on]Was Moroni a Jew? Or was he Israelite? Or what was he? Does his nose mirrors it enough?

(We have only the sight of his nose. For Michelangelo's David we have a visibly uncircumcised unpronounceable to evaluate his jewishness...)

Anthropologists who consider the nose an important racial index (Topinard, Bertillon, Deniker, and others) in their classifications of varieties of noses have one class which they call "Jewish," or "Semitic"—prominent, arched, and "hooked" noses. It has been pointed out that this Semitic nose appears in ancient Egyptian monuments, in figures representing Semites. On the other hand, some authors show that this form of nose is not characteristically Semitic, because the modern non-Jewish Semites, particularly such as are supposed to have maintained themselves in a pure state, as the Bedouin Arabs, do not possess this characteristic nose at all. Their noses are as a rule short, straight, and often "snub," or concave. Luschan holds that the hook-nose is by no means characteristic of the Semites, and contends that the small number of arched noses that are found among the Jews is due to ancient intermixture with the Hittites in Asia Minor. He shows that other races also, as the Armenian, for instance, who have a good portion of Hittite blood in their veins, have hook-noses.
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ludwigm wrote:For Michelangelo's David we have a visibly uncircumcised unpronounceable to evaluate his jewishness...)


Which is why he wasn't allowed to be out in the open, at BYU.
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I'm stuck on the headgear of the Nauvoo Moroni!

Is that a representation of a halo? (i.e. The Madonna and Child with Angels; Duccio)

Or is it a turbine worn by young men in early renaissance Italy? (i.e. Portrait of a Young Man; Paolo Uccello)

Or maybe a laurel wreath? (i.e. Profile Study Of The Head Of A Bearded Man, Wearing A Laurel Wreath; Sir Peter Paul Rubens)
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harmony wrote:
ludwigm wrote:For Michelangelo's David we have a visibly uncircumcised unpronounceable to evaluate his jewishness...)

Which is why he wasn't allowed to be out in the open, at BYU.

And his picture was moderated out from one of my comments.
(Together with a caricature of Rodin's "Thinker" - where The Thinker is thinking about a woman, same pose, same clothing...)
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zeezrom wrote:I find it very interesting how a golden statue of an angel has made its way to the tops of Mormon temples. Consider the meaning of this iconic symbol to all the believers. What does it represent?
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zeezrom wrote:Artist Damien Hirst designed a statue of an angel named "verify", proposed to be installed in the town of Ilfracombe along the devon coast of southwest England.

Where is it being housed right now, while waiting for the "yea" or "nay" on the proposal to install it in Ilfracombe?
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zeezrom wrote:I find it very interesting how a golden statue of an angel has made its way to the tops of Mormon temples. Consider the meaning of this iconic symbol to all the believers. What does it represent? To the prophet, it represents purity and righteousness. The angel gazes to the Hill Cumorah... to our homeland.

When I prepared to leave Toronto following the concluding dedicatory session, I gazed upward toward heaven, that I might offer a silent prayer of gratitude to God for His watchful care, His bounteous blessings and for “days never to be forgotten.” High above the gleaming white temple, which personifies purity and reflects righteousness, is the gold-leafed statue of the Angel Moroni. I remembered being told that from that height of 105 feet, on a clear day one can see all the way to Cumorah. I noted that in Moroni’s hand was his familiar trumpet. He was gazing homeward—homeward to Cumorah. The beautiful Toronto Temple prepares all who enter to return homeward—homeward to heaven, homeward to family, homeward to God.
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I've been on the grounds of the Toronto temple (actually, I almost forgot, I've been inside too), but although I've never been up there with Moroni, I seriously doubt that he could see all the way to Central America. (;=)
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I still don't understand how Moroni could be called an angel. I thought he appeared to Smith as a spirit being, which would be consistent with Mormon doctrine, because he should be waiting for resurrection along with all the other dead.
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