My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Nortinski wrote:...

I am certain that if I ran into one of the Apostles somewhere that I would almost certainly openly (and loudly) mock them. ... It would be fun and I would almost certainly videotape it and post it online.


Yeah, almost certainly ...

I think it's time for Nortinski to go on 'ignore'.

No doubt I shall notice if he ever posts a video of anything but his own backside.
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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Nortinski wrote:
Buffalo wrote:I met L. Tom Perry once. It was nothing like your encounter. It was in a stake center, and nothing about him stood out particularly. He seemed to be more of a regular guy.



Lowell T. Perry performed the wedding ceremony for my brother Dallas and his first wife (it didn't stick.)

I am certain that if I ran into one of the Apostles somewhere that I would almost certainly openly (and loudly) mock them. Maybe by loudly proclaiming the name of the 2nd token of the...well...you get it. I suspect they don't get hecklers very often. It would be fun and I would almost certainly videotape it and post it online.


What's so fun about accosting an old man on the street and videotaping the matter?

Actually, given the distaste for bullying the elderly, maybe you should do it so we can see what happens to you.
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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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LDSToronto wrote:What's so fun about accosting an old man on the street and videotaping the matter?

Actually, given the distaste for bullying the elderly, maybe you should do it so we can see what happens to you.


Somehow I don't think any of the Apostles would cry over it. Sadly, they would still have millions of people give them money.
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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Chap wrote:I think it's time for Nortinski to go on 'ignore'.



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"Oh God, hear me rolling my eyes...
"Oh God, hear me rolling my eyes."

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You are not God. It is not up to you to decide the eternal fate of another individual. It is God's...and God's alone.


This is unscriptural and undoctrinal. bc is not judging anyone's eternal fate. God delegates to his prophets and his faithful Saints the authority and power (discerning of spirits etc.) to make judgements regarding ideas, concepts, attitudes, tendencies, and the behavior of others according to settled gospel standards. The Saints have a body of core purposes and missions while in mortality, and one of them is to raise a voice of warning.

I snipped the rest of these relativisitic rationalizations because none of it was relevant to the central point: we are here to judge, discriminate, scrutinize, comprehend, preach, teach, expound, exhort and warn.

We are also, in righteousness, to denounce and excoriate evil when appropriate, and not be intellectual and moral cowards and shrink away from that responsibility.

Need I say "Proposition 8?"
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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Droopy wrote:
You are not God. It is not up to you to decide the eternal fate of another individual. It is God's...and God's alone.


This is unscriptural and undoctrinal. bc is not judging anyone's eternal fate. God delegates to his prophets and his faithful Saints the authority and power (discerning of spirits etc.) to make judgements regarding ideas, concepts, attitudes, tendencies, and the behavior of others according to settled gospel standards. The Saints have a body of core purposes and missions while in mortality, and one of them is to raise a voice of warning.

I snipped the rest of these relativisitic rationalizations because none of it was relevant to the central point: we are here to judge, discriminate, scrutinize, comprehend, preach, teach, expound, exhort and warn.

We are also, in righteousness, to denounce and excoriate evil when appropriate, and not be intellectual and moral cowards and shrink away from that responsibility.

Need I say "Proposition 8?"


Why hasn't the Church run a "Prop 8" style campaign since?
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Re: My close encounter with Elder Bednar

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Drifting wrote:
Why hasn't the Church run a "Prop 8" style campaign since?


Me thinks THAT will never happen again. I suspect they learned their lesson from all the negative fallout from the last time. Not to mention the fine they received for breaking the law. Whatever happened to being subject to the laws of the land? Does it not count as a violation of the law if they're trying to stop gays from being able to marry or when a negro has relations with a white person?

Wait..sorry...I think they're okay with the inter-racial marriage thing now.

Sort of.
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