Now Obama says he didn't say "you didn't build that"

[_Kevin Graham]

Economists know that the Reagan tax cut didn't create economic boom. That was primarily due to the fed cutting interest rates, as even Reagan's economists even admitted during that time.

The fed has reduced interest rates to almost zero now and yet the economy is not stimulated (and seniors are being screwed).

Exactly, With rates already at or close to zero before Obama came into office, the fed can't save us this time by reducing rates. But this is certainly the case with Reagan and his so-called economic boom. even his own economists admitted it. At no point during his first term did they attribute the economic improvement to tax cuts.

[_Kevin Graham]

What's your evidence here? Everything I read states that Reagan received a degree from Eureka College

I'm pretty sure it was an honoray degree, if that. Reagan gave a speech at BYU saying "imagine what I could have accomplished if I had a degree." Reagan was a professional poster boy for corporations, pure an simple.

I suggest you compare Steyn's books with Obama's two alleged books. Steyn's much faster on his feet than Obama. Did you listen to Steyn or do you think it is beneath you

I listened to as much as I could. The man is an idiot.

Well, this is the same Kevin we saw ten years ago. You're playing for a different team but the insults are similar.

Now you're just projecting. You're attacking his intelligence for comments any reasonable person knows to be examples of misspeaking. Like some Mormons, no amount of evidence will convince you that you're wrong on these issues. You love attacking him for the dumbest things, and so you will. In the meantime, let's turn a blind eye to Romney's campaign, which has no plan except to give tax cuts to the wealthy, increase military spending, and repeal healthcare for 33 million people. So far that's about all his plan amounts to. And let's ignore the fact that he doesn't have the integrity to release his tax returns. Yes, sit there and pretend it is normal for Presidential candidates to fight to the death on their "one year" tax return.

Yes, when I mean to say forty I always say fifty. Boy, you'll excuse any stupid statement by "my Muslim faith" Obama.

And you've stooped so low that you're willing to attack him for anything Brietbart and Limbaugh say is a valid attack. Most Republicans I know don't even hold these things against him, but the way you're desperately grasping for anything you can find from the blogosphere, is embarrassing.

[_Analytics]

What's your evidence here? Everything I read states that Reagan received a degree from Eureka College

I'm pretty sure it was an honoray degree, if that. Reagan gave a speech at BYU saying "imagine what I could have accomplished if I had a degree."

Reagan graduated from Eureka College in 1932 with a BA degree in Economics and Sociology.

[_Kevin Graham]

Hmm. I stand corrected.

[_krose]

I was reading some Reagan history this morning to check that (yes, Eureka grad, 1932). The most interesting thing I learned is how big a fan of McCarthyism he was. When he was working in Hollywood, he supplied a list of people he thought might be involved with or sympathetic to communism.

Ronnie was involved in blacklisting his colleagues. Nice.

[_moksha]

Ronnie was involved in blacklisting his colleagues. Nice.

More than nice, it was providential. It brought him to the attention of the Republican Party who saw Reagan as a man of workable values.

Now Reagan can't take sole credit for building the Hollywood Blacklist, nor would he want to. This failure to acknowledge credit is only an instrument to be used in attacking an opponent in a political campaign. Otherwise such lack of acknowledgment would be the mark of a dishonest and vain character.

[_richardMdBorn]

So the Republicans can't attack his record, and they can't run on their own ideas.

Yep, the Obama administration promised while ramming through the stimulus package that unemployment wouldn't exceed 8%. That's worked on real well....

Let's make sure I understand your point. By going into a rant about the challenging and disappointing events over the last 4 years, you are attempting to illustrate that I'm correct and the Republicans can't run on their own ideas. Correct?

Just to recap, here are the main issues that are driving huge federal deficits:

• Record-low tax rates, which were implemented by Bush 42
  
• Military spending that eclipses the spending that bankrupted the Soviet Union. Began under Reagan, accelerated under Bush 42
  
• The unprecedented financial meltdown and resulting recession that happened under Bush 42
  
• The demographics of the baby boomer generation
  
• The failure of the leaders of the last 30 years to fix Social Security and Medicare
  
• Huge inflation rates for medical care and a stubborn unwillingness by national leaders to do anything that could be construed as limiting insurance benefits
  
• The failure of most Americans to live healthy lifestyles (i.e. if Americans chose to eat right, exercise right, and otherwise live healthy, we'd save hundreds of billions a year on medical costs)

You should know, Richard, that the Fed has very little control over long-term interest rates. Obama isn't causing long-term interest rates to be low. Interest rates are low because there are too many savers and not enough qualified buyers.

Why aren't Republicans willing to address with the real issues? Why do they refuse to even acknowledge the real issues?

You wrote that Republicans can't attack Obama's record. I pointed out the obvious weakness of his record with respect to unemployment. You quoted my comment about the continued high unemployment, in excess of the upper limit the Obama administration promised, and responded with lots of arguments about the deficit. Groan

[_richardMdBorn]

What's your evidence here? Everything I read states that Reagan received a degree from Eureka College

I'm pretty sure it was an honoray degree, if that. Reagan gave a speech at BYU saying "imagine what I could have accomplished if I had a degree." Reagan was a professional poster boy for corporations, pure an simple.

Lyndon Johnson said (in private), after watching Reagan's famous speech in 1964, that the Republicans nominated the wrong guy. He obviously saw something in Reagan that you have missed. You appear to believe Clark Clifford's insult that "Reagan was an amiable dunce". You might find of interest Reagan, In His Own Hand: The Writings of Ronald Reagan That Reveal His Revolutionary Vision for America. From the book description in the Amazon site http://www.amazon.com/Reagan-His-Own-Ha ... 074320123X

Here is definitive proof that Ronald Reagan was far more than a Great Communicator of other people's ideas. He was very much the author of his own ideas, with a single vision that he pursued relentlessly at home and abroad. Reagan, In His Own Hand presents this vision through Reagan's radio writings as well as other writings selected from throughout his life: short stories written in high school and college, a poem from his high school yearbook, newspaper articles, letters, and speeches both before and during the presidency. It offers many surprises, beginning with the fact that Reagan's writings exist in such size and breadth at all. While he was writing batches and batches of radioaddresses, Reagan was also traveling the country, collaborating on a newspaper column, giving hundreds of speeches, and planning his 1980 campaign. Yet the wide reading and deep research self-evident here suggest a mind constantly at work. The selections are reproduced with Reagan's own edits, offering a unique window into his thought processes. These writings show that Reagan had carefully considered nearly every issue he would face as president.

[_richardMdBorn]

Yep, the Obama administration promised while ramming through the stimulus package that unemployment wouldn't exceed 8%.

CFR

That's a reasonable request.

Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn't quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983.

The two advisers who wrote the paper, Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, went on to land key jobs in the Obama Administration. Romer is the head of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, and Bernstein is the chief economist and economic-policy adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. And the stimulus bill that both economists championed became law in mid-February. What has not come to pass, however, is the boom in job creation that Romer and Bernstein predicted.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1910208,00.html

More than three years later, the unemployment rate is still above 8%. And it would be much higher if so many discouraged workers had not dropped our of the job market.

[_richardMdBorn]

And you've stooped so low that you're willing to attack him for anything Brietbart and Limbaugh say is a valid attack. Most Republicans I know don't even hold these things against him, but the way you're desperately grasping for anything you can find from the blogosphere, is embarrassing.

I didn’t know that I quoted on this thread either Breitbart, who I thought was dead, or Limbaugh. How many of your friends think that Austrian is a language. You knew so little about Reagan that you thought his college degree was an honorary one. Your unquestioning acceptance of weak liberal arguments such as in the "Slowest Growth in Spending Under Obama” thread is embarrassing. That said, I will start a thread about Obama’s intelligence, asked Kevin to back up his comment that,

Attacking Obama's intelligence is a no win for you guys