Edelman Worldwide - The family proclamation

[_Bob Loblaw]

I have, however, formed a much more accurate impression of your character based on the mass of vomitous, seething hatred and cartoonish self-importance you have defecated in your post:

Droopy reminds me more of this:

[_Chap]

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You think he agrees with you that the poor can care for themselves, and don't need a piece of Your pie?

The implications of this statement are quite interesting, to say the least. So "the poor" need a piece of my "pie," eh? Interesting....

Looks like Jesus wanted a piece of your pie, at any rate.

Matthew 25:

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Such a small-minded, materialist kind of guy that. He didn't seem to realize that the Christian way is to keep one's pie, and try to think what the poor can do to earn some. He just thought about his stomach all the time, perhaps a bit like the poor often do.

[_huckelberry]

I'm unsure if this has been a previous topic, so I state my ignorance and ask if any of you have any more information about the involvement of Edelman Worldwide in the coming forth of the proclamation of the family, than is found in this

Please expand or clarify the question here. What is Edelman Worldwide and why are you wondering about it? I am long enough outside of the LDS organization that there is a lot of inner workings I do not keep up on. I do not know who the current GA are
You may say I should background more carefully. I read you link rapidly for general subject matter. I am not understanding the direction and point of your question.I am actually curious about the connection between Mormon theology,beliefs and culture and various political points of view. It is one of the handful of questions that rekindles my curiosity for this message board.

[_huckelberry]

I am completely at a loss to see why one political party has a better relationship to free agency.

I cannot imagine why Satan would want to limit free agency as seems to be believed is some circles. There is to my understanding indication that Satan's view is that freedom of individual action Trump's tiresome obligations to others. I think that is a view which gives him access to people of a wide variety of political viewpoints.It gives him access to people of wealth and fame as well as people who have little.

[_Uther]

You think Jesus is a rightwinger?

Irrelevant. Jesus was not involved in politics of any kind, at least directly, at any time during his life that we have any record of.

Do you know what politics means? Try using Google and rerespond when you have pondered upon the topic.
If you apply sense instead of emotion, you will find that Jesus is as far from right wing politics, as Stalin is from charity.
The right wing feasts upon just-world thinking, which is a fallacy at best.
Just-world thinking goes hand in hand with pre-existence thinking.

You think he agrees with you that the poor can care for themselves, and don't need a piece of Your pie?

The implications of this statement are quite interesting, to say the least. So "the poor" need a piece of my "pie," eh? Interesting.

What, in your estimation, is the core answer to poverty? That is to say, very broadly speaking, and looking at long term improvements in the lives of as many poor people as possible, what is the fundamental means through or by which the poor can be lifted out of poverty, and lifted, for all intents, permanently?

That depends on the reasons for poverty. To create a sustainable system that has room for both the gifted and the not so gifted, you can look for example to the scandinavian countries to find models that actually work. Strange that some of the countries that have among the happier citicens in the world and the better functioning goverment systems, are the most secular.

I think you are mistaking him for his brother, Lucifer.

Interestingly, Lucifer's way is to steal, plunder, expropriate, and cheat to get what one desires. Lucifer doesn't believe in honest work because that's for suckers. He also isn't much on free market capitalism. He prefers to "spread the wealth around" at sword's point.

Interesting.

How can you equate free market capitalism with honest work?
Do you think the higher law of consecration was a faulty revelation, or a lesser law than free market capitalism?

[_Uther]

I'm unsure if this has been a previous topic, so I state my ignorance and ask if any of you have any more information about the involvement of Edelman Worldwide in the coming forth of the proclamation of the family, than is found in this

Please expand or clarify the question here. What is Edelman Worldwide and why are you wondering about it? I am long enough outside of the LDS organization that there is a lot of inner workings I do not keep up on. I do not know who the current GA are
You may say I should background more carefully. I read you link rapidly for general subject matter. I am not understanding the direction and point of your question.I am actually curious about the connection between Mormon theology,beliefs and culture and various political points of view. It is one of the handful of questions that rekindles my curiosity for this message board.

My question was if the international PR company by the name of Edelman Worldwide was involved in the coming forth of the proclamation on the family, as insinuated in the text in the link.

[_Cylon]

I own you. I can bring you and the rest of the posse out in force like a pack of flesh-hungry Dingos on any given day, at any time of the day, with a snap of my fingers.

Quite a snap you got there, Droppy. Have arthritis?

I give you an A+ for effort, a C for skill, and an F for economy of words.

I have, however, formed a much more accurate impression of your character based on the mass of vomitous, seething hatred and cartoonish self-importance you have defecated in your post:



Oh, and you will be relieved to know that he votes Republican.

Droopy's got a bit of a point, though. He does generally get the attention he so desperately craves when he comes here. Now would be a perfect time to use that ignore feature.

[_ludwigm]

You think Jesus is a rightwinger?

Irrelevant. Jesus was not involved in politics of any kind, at least directly, at any time during his life that we have any record of.

We have records:

And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

14. And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
15. And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

Or:

14. And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
15. Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.
16. And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.
17. And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

(same as Matt 22, Luke 20)

Is Caesar part of politics?
Are moneychangers too... ?