Chap wrote:Not bother, puzzle. Please explain yourself.
As I have stated, I know that some (but by now means all) religious Jews adopt this practice, and I know the reasons for it, but I have never seen it in writings by Mormons or any other kind of Christian before. Mormons in particular seem to refer frequently to various personal names that they believe refer to their deity, and in that they are following the practice of past Mormon prophets. Were they at fault?
Or are your reasons for doing this secret?
While LDS have been admonished to not use the name of the Lord often:
"The commandment says, 'Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.' (Ex. 20:7.) Except in prayers and proper sermons, we must not use the name of the Lord." (God Will Not Be Mocked, Spencer W. Kimball, Oct. 1974)
I use G-d in reference to the Father, and God in reference to the Son.
"Wo unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:21
Hades wrote:So, men of G-d aren't infallible, but we can trust them to be right when God tells them to kill someone.
Well, you can find out for yourself if anything is from the Lord, rather than blindly following. Furthermore, LDS leaders can speak/do of themselves (where infallibility comes in), or of the Lord.
"Wo unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:21
Chap wrote:Not bother, puzzle. Please explain yourself.
As I have stated, I know that some (but by now means all) religious Jews adopt this practice, and I know the reasons for it, but I have never seen it in writings by Mormons or any other kind of Christian before. Mormons in particular seem to refer frequently to various personal names that they believe refer to their deity, and in that they are following the practice of past Mormon prophets. Were they at fault?
Or are your reasons for doing this secret?
While LDS have been admonished to not use the name of the Lord often:
"The commandment says, 'Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.' (Ex. 20:7.) Except in prayers and proper sermons, we must not use the name of the Lord." (God Will Not Be Mocked, Spencer W. Kimball, Oct. 1974)
I use G-d in reference to the Father, and God in reference to the Son.
But, God isn't either of their actual name.
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Tchild wrote:Likewise Gordon. Truth is truth, whether you accept it or not. I cannot help it if you will not.
I don't claim, nor even think, to know all truth. The difference, is that where I have not stated you to be in error, you have done so to me.
And when did I claim to know all truth? I claimed that the HG confirmed to me that God never commands men to kill in his name, the exact same way that you stated that the HG confirmed to you that he does.
So, I guess either there is more than one HG, or that you are wrong. Take you pick.
Gordon wrote:I don't claim, nor even think, to know all truth. The difference, is that where I have not stated you to be in error, you have done so to me.
And when did I claim to know all truth? I claimed that the HG confirmed to me that God never commands men to kill in his name, the exact same way that you stated that the HG confirmed to you that he does.
So, I guess either there is more than one HG, or that you are wrong. Take you pick.
Actually, the Holy Ghost told me God was ambivalent about the whole killing in His name thing...
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Tchild wrote:And when did I claim to know all truth? I claimed that the HG confirmed to me that God never commands men to kill in his name, the exact same way that you stated that the HG confirmed to you that he does.
So, I guess either there is more than one HG, or that you are wrong. Take you pick.
I didn't say you claimed to know all truth, either. I said you claimed me in error...which you did again, here.
I simply said we can't both be right, and we can both be wrong. You have meted judgment in this instance, though.
You are only, incorrectly, allowing for there to either be mutliple HGs or me to be in error.
"Wo unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:21
