Just how bad is it to post a link to the temple video

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Re: Just how bad is it to post a link to the temple video

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lulu wrote:
Nomomo wrote:Temple content is not copyrighted.


It's OK to post this on the internet

http://www.william-shakespeare.information/scr ... venice.htm

Its NOT OK to post all of this to youtube. Not even the copy you made at the movie theatre with your hidden digital camera

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379889/

See the difference?

Sure, The difference is obvious. The 1st is in the Public Domain and the text cannot be copyrighted in that form. The 2nd has a registered copyright of a unique performance.

But your example does not apply to any of the goings on in the Temple as neither the ritual, words spoken, or the film shown in the Temple have been copyrighted.

I was not claiming any of it is in the Public Domain as in the manner of your 1st link, but only that none of it has been copyrighted.

They simply haven't copyrighted it. They have their reasons for not doing so.
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Nomomo wrote:Temple content is not copyrighted.


lulu wrote:It's OK to post this on the internet

http://www.william-shakespeare.information/scr ... venice.htm

Its NOT OK to post all of this to youtube. Not even the copy you made at the movie theatre with your hidden digital camera

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379889/

See the difference?

Nomomo wrote:Sure, The difference is obvious. The 1st is in the Public Domain and the text cannot be copyrighted in that form. The 2nd has a registered copyright of a unique performance.

But your example does not apply to any of the goings on in the Temple as neither the ritual, words spoken, or the film shown in the Temple have been copyrighted.

I was not claiming any of it is in the Public Domain as in the manner of your 1st link, but only that none of it has been copyrighted.

They simply haven't copyrighted it. They have their reasons for not doing so.

The copyright exists as soon as the work has been produced even without registration.

The church could enforce it if it wanted to. Its just easier for them to go after an isolated father of Mormon children in Florida.
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Re: Just how bad is it to post a link to the temple video

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why me wrote: :lol:

Now mary, as you know the church considers the temple ceremony sacred and private. Not to be spread by mouth or by internet. If a member posts such a video they have broken a promise. And they know it. Those are the rules. And it has nothing to do with a rich corporation. Just a policy. The church could have 7 members and the same would happen.

We all must accept the consequences if we break the rules. But posting a victim post does not really help. But it does get some sympathy from the exlds crowd and from the professional critics of the LDS church.

First off, we don't even really know that the temple ceremony stuff is what he is being called in for. His leaders mentioned concern over several things he had written recently. The temple stuff could be among them, but maybe not. After all, to my knowledge, the temple material was taken off the site before this all happened (can anyone confirm that?). In any case, it's not there anymore. The CHI says that apostates can face discipline if they persist in their ways after having been corrected by priesthood leaders. So if the temple stuff is what they're going after, then they will be going in opposition to the CHI if they ex him or disfellowship him after the offending material has already been removed.
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lulu wrote:The copyright exists as soon as the work has been produced even without registration.
Ah....,there is that, I concede, but being as they never registered a copyright most they could attempt is to persue the removal of the material, they could not prevail in any punishment, monetary or otherwise. No big whoop to whoever may have put it out there.
The church could enforce it if it wanted to.
They would like to, but they don't want to -_~ Claim the copyright for ordinances supposedly required for salvation? They would look like total frickin' fools! They make some mistakes occasionally, but I doubt they will ever be that dumb.
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Nomomo wrote:They would like to, but they don't want to -_~ Claim the copyright for ordinances supposedly required for salvation? They would look like total frickin' fools! They make some mistakes occasionally, but I doubt they will ever be that dumb.


They don't have to claim copyright for ordinances required for salvation. They just have to claim copyright for the performance they've put together.
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brade wrote:
Nomomo wrote:They would like to, but they don't want to -_~ Claim the copyright for ordinances supposedly required for salvation? They would look like total frickin' fools! They make some mistakes occasionally, but I doubt they will ever be that dumb.


They don't have to claim copyright for ordinances required for salvation. They just have to claim copyright for the performance they've put together.

True. They would still look like fools. Extremely unlikely they will ever do so.
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Nomomo wrote:
brade wrote:
They don't have to claim copyright for ordinances required for salvation. They just have to claim copyright for the performance they've put together.

True. They would still look like fools. Extremely unlikely they will ever do so.


I don't think exercising a copyright over the temple performances is any more foolish looking than spending billions of dollars on a shopping mall in a single city in the span of a few years and less than 1.5 billion dollars worldwide on humanitarian aid over the course of more than 3 decades. In fact, I think the latter is a lot more foolish looking than the former in the context of silly things the authorities of a religion could do. Like, a lot more.
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Very valid point, nonetheless, I doubt they will ever do it.
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brade wrote:I don't think exercising a copyright over the temple performances is any more foolish looking than spending billions of dollars on a shopping mall in a single city in the span of a few years and less than 1.5 billion dollars worldwide on humanitarian aid over the course of more than 3 decades. In fact, I think the latter is a lot more foolish looking than the former in the context of silly things the authorities of a religion could do. Like, a lot more.

They managed to scrub the web of the secret volume of the CHI. But they don't even try with the super secret temple ceremony.

Weird.
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Just how bad is it to post a link to the temple video?


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