bcspace wrote:I don't initially see anything contrary to LDS doctrine here including self interest
The Church of Satan wrote: Satanism has far more in common with Objectivism than with any other religion or philosophy. Objectivists endorse reason, selfishness, greed and atheism.
ETA: To be fair, the LDS Church does not endorse reason.
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bcspace wrote: On top of that, the Ayn Rand Objectivist definition I posited was not challenged and it contained no mention of God or the non existence of God.
Who can withstand the power of bcspace cursorily skimming a Wikipedia entry while failing to grasp the central tenets of the ideology he is knowingly commenting on?
Kishkumen wrote:The Mormon who claims to be a Randian Objectivist (is there another kind?) is like the person who gets up before a testimony meeting and bears witness to how "x" movie made them feel the Spirit and was "just like the Gospel" because....
In other words, anyone who truly understands the philosophical positions underlying Objectivism would never mistake it for being fundamentally compatible with Mormon theology.
What I see here are Mormons who are high on personal liberty, responsibility, and self-improvement, who see those characteristics in Objectivism as well. Beyond those surface similarities, however, there is a wide gulf between Rand's philosophy and Mormon theology. The gulf is, in fact, so wide, that it is essentially the flip side of the claim that Marxism is compatible with Mormonism, but arguably worse.
Randianism is much closer to Korihorism than it is to Mormonism.
Begs the question to what extent was Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels inspired by the dark side of The Book of Mormon.
EAllusion wrote:Yeah, if you aren't familiar with LeVay Satanism, which is what self-described Satanists are, it's just a variation of Ayn Rand with some gothic aesthetics and ritual. If Mormonism is compatible with Rand, then ditto for Mormonism and Satanism.
That's pretty much what I said a page or so back.
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei
