Links to the Maxwell Institute

[_Doctor Scratch]

Pretty weak, Ray. Of course I was referring to Dr. Peterson's repeated demands to Gerald Bradford that he be "compensated" with his "usual fee" for editing the Review. Considering the figures that are listed on the MI's account sheets, it would appear that this was pretty serious "side money." If you want to fall back on the tired old saw about "Not one dime of my salary...," you can go right ahead, but I think it's clear at this point that that's not at all what I'm talking about.

It's beginning to seem more and more obvious that he was raking in substantial amounts of money for doing apologetics. As you say, "Good for him." But let's not overlook the egregious lying about all of this.

[_RayAgostini]

It's beginning to seem more and more obvious that he was raking in substantial amounts of money for doing apologetics. As you say, "Good for him." But let's not overlook the egregious lying about all of this.

Provide the proof.

[_Doctor Scratch]

It's beginning to seem more and more obvious that he was raking in substantial amounts of money for doing apologetics. As you say, "Good for him." But let's not overlook the egregious lying about all of this.

Provide the proof.

It's been provided:

Pending my dismissal from METI, I will insist that I continue to be compensated as a director in my role, which I will now have more time for, as its editor in chief. I also expect my usual fee as editor of the issue of the Mormon Studies Review that you've killed. It was finished and ready to go.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... =1&t=24378

[_RayAgostini]

It's been provided:

Pending my dismissal from METI, I will insist that I continue to be compensated as a director in my role, which I will now have more time for, as its editor in chief. I also expect my usual fee as editor of the issue of the Mormon Studies Review that you've killed. It was finished and ready to go.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... =1&t=24378

Do you know if this fee was to "do apologetics", or for other administrative purposes?

And you know it was in the order of $20,000 pa?

[_Doctor Scratch]

If the fee was for "editing the Review," then yes, absolutely it covered "doing apologetics." Part of what the Editor did involved penning an "Editor's Introduction," and overseeing the articles that wound up in the journal. If that's not "apologetics," then a triple-bypass isn't "surgery."

And do I "know" that he was paid 20K? No, I don't. Is it reasonable to assume that it might have been that high during the Review's heyday? Yes, I think it is.

[_RayAgostini]

If the fee was for "editing the Review," then yes, absolutely it covered "doing apologetics." Part of what the Editor did involved penning an "Editor's Introduction," and overseeing the articles that wound up in the journal. If that's not "apologetics," then a triple-bypass isn't "surgery."

And do I "know" that he was paid 20K? No, I don't. Is it reasonable to assume that it might have been that high during the Review's heyday? Yes, I think it is.

It wasn't Dan's decision to incorporate FARMS into BYU. Bill Hamblin didn't think it was a good idea from the start.

The Review had been going nearly ten years before incorporation.

Does $20,000 pa sound like a fee?

[_RockSlider]

It wasn't Dan's decision to incorporate FARMS into BYU. Bill Hamblin didn't think it was a good idea from the start.

Patting myself on the back.

I suppose this might have something to do with Dan's possible kicking against the pricks from the word get go.

I remember giving Dan a hard time on MAD, years back that he was being disrespectful to his benefactor to continue to refer to the Maxwell Institute as FARMS.

Everyone referred to it as such at the time. Shorty there after Dan moved to the common "MI" as well as everyone else.

[_Doctor Scratch]

His remarks really are pretty bizarre. I mean, look at this:

Pending my dismissal from METI, I will insist that I continue to be compensated as a director in my role, which I will now have more time for, as its editor in chief.

What does this mean? It sounds like he's saying that he was slacking off and/or spreading himself too thin among his various MI roles, but now that he has "more time for" METI, he wants to keep getting paid for whatever it is that he was or wasn't doing before?

Dr. W. called him a "con man" on the other thread. I don't know that I'm willing to go quite that far, but something is definitely fishy here, and the fact that Ray A keeps diddling around and failing to address the issue is another strike against him.

It seems clear by now that DCP profited from his work as an apologist.

[_RayAgostini]

Patting myself on the back.

I suppose this might have something to do with Dan's possible kicking against the pricks from the word get go.

I remember giving Dan a hard time on MAD, years back that he was being disrespectful to his benefactor to continue to refer to the Maxwell Institute as FARMS.

Everyone referred to it as such at the time. Shorty there after Dan moved to the common "MI" as well as everyone else.

Elder Maxwell's quote was published by FARMS long before it was incorporated into BYU:

Though argument does not create conviction, lack of it destroys belief. What seems to be proved may not be embraced; but what no one shows the ability to defend is quickly abandoned. Rational argument does not create belief, but it maintains a climate in which belief may flourish. (Austin Farrer on C. S. Lewis.)

Naturally, they would honour Elder Maxwell, and feel his name attached to apologetics should take precedence.

Is that really so hard to understand?

[_RayAgostini]

Dr. W. called him a "con man" on the other thread. I don't know that I'm willing to go quite that far, but something is definitely fishy here, and the fact that Ray A keeps diddling around and failing to address the issue is another strike against him.

It seems clear by now that DCP profited from his work as an apologist.

How fake and hypocritical do you get? You "hesitate" to call DCP a "con man", when all you've been doing on this board for the past six years is calling him a con man, deceiver, liar and hypocrite.

Clean up your fake act, (Moderator Note) in real life name deleted.