Mittens wrote:1. He was worshiped as God by the angels. Heb. 1:6 2. He was worshiped as God by the shepherds. Luke 2:15 3. He was worshiped as God by the wise men. Matt. 2:2, 11 4. He was worshiped as God by a leper. Matt. 8:2 5. He was worshiped as God by a ruler. Matt. 9:18 6. He was worshiped as God by a Canaanite woman. Matt. 15:25 7. He was worshiped as God by a mother. Matt. 20:20 8. He was worshiped as God by a maniac. Mark 5:6 9. He was worshiped as God by a man born blind. John 9:38 10. He was worshiped as God by Thomas. John 20:28 11. He was worshiped as God by the Greeks. John 12:20-21 12. He was worshiped as God by His Apostles. Matt. 14:33; 28:9 13. He is worshiped as God by all creation. Rev 5:11-14 14. He was worshiped as God by Isaiah. Isaiah 6:1-6. John 12:41 15. He was worshiped as God by the women. Matt 28:9 16. He was worshiped by His Disciples. Luke 24:52
Must have missed the Scriptures
We never said he wasn't "God", nor that he's not "worshiped".
We simply state as your LDS quoting that it's "different" and our Worship is primarily to be focused to the Father, through Christ.
And those are Christ's OWN WORDS!
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
ldsfaqs wrote:We never said .... We simply state ...
Who are the "we"?
Last but not least, who are the "others" (the not we)?
Please...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Luke 18 9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee [Mormon] and the other a tax collector[Christian]. 11 The Pharisee [Mormon] stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector[Christian] . 12 I... fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector[Christian], standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Justice = Getting what you deserve Mercy = Not getting what you deserve Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
PrickKicker wrote:Although being a Member the LDS church for life. I have never really had a personal relationship with Jesus.
You can't go down to the Pub with Him and have a game of darts. He won't help you start a row when Manchester beats Leeds. We don't even know if He is a good kisser.
His teachings do however bring me happiness and form the basis of Christianity. Without Him, McConkie would have needed to be harsh in the name of Baal.
Mittens wrote:Baal's symbols do exist on Mormon Temples
As I seem to remember from the Bible, God's chosen people the "Jews" (tm), were also Baal worshippers. If your assertion is correct (which I find highly dubious since you don't hold the credentials to make that assertion nor have you presented any evidence that it is true), then they are in good company as God's chosen people.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Albion wrote:Tobin, you're not really saying that worship of Baal by some of God's "chosen people" was approved by God, are you?
I'm not, but it was associated with the "chosen people" in the Bible. If Mittens is drawing an association between Mormons and Baal as well, even though Mormon don't worship or acknowledge Baal in anyway - then I'm saying if that association is meant to be as much an indication of not being God's "chosen people" as the Jews - the Mormons are in good company.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Thanks for the clarification. You well know my view of Mormonism but I do admit that the intentions of most Mormons is to seek and find God but they have been (how can I say it) persuaded to follow a counterfeit gospel with all that entails. The markings on the Salt Lake LDS temple have been explained to me as "innocent decorations", a response that I find troubling. If they are innocent markings why are some of them (the inverted pentagram for instance) repeated over and over on various newer LDS buildings in Salt Lake even though the connection of those markings to the occult have been well exposed. Prior to the 1930s it is possible that people might innocently have used the swastika as "decoration" but who in their right mind today would use it as innocent decoration knowing what we now know and what it is connected to and how it is perceived? I personally believe there is willful intent on the part of Mormon leadership which might not be recognized or even seen by the average member who takes things with good, if not mistaken intent.