The Dinner Party of Eternity

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Re: The Dinner Party of Eternity

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Morley wrote:I'll play. Mine are all people for whom I have two or more, tormenting, unanswered questions.


Gustavus Adolphus
Sir Richard Burton
Sally Hemings
Rashid ad-Din Sinan (The Old Man of the Mountain)
Walt Whitman
Suleiman the Magnificent
Mosheh ben Maimon
Joan of Acre
Sylvia Plath
Frederick Douglass
Ragnar Lodbrok
Cleitus the Black



Edit to add alternates:

Ho Chi Minh
Omar Khayyam
Sydney Rigdon


Gotta give you props for extreme diversity. Great list.
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Morley wrote:I'll play. Mine are all people for whom I have two or more, tormenting, unanswered questions.


Gustavus Adolphus
Sir Richard Burton
Sally Hemings
Rashid ad-Din Sinan (The Old Man of the Mountain)
Walt Whitman
Suleiman the Magnificent
Mosheh ben Maimon
Joan of Acre
Sylvia Plath
Frederick Douglass
Ragnar Lodbrok
Cleitus the Black



Edit to add alternates:

Ho Chi Minh
Omar Khayyam
Sydney Rigdon

Would you mind sharing some of your questions? I'd be interested in what you'd ask Omar Khayyam, for example.
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Re: The Dinner Party of Eternity

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Blixa wrote:
Molok wrote:Are you saying eating with Hunter Thompson isn't fun? Did you meet him?


A long, long time ago in another life. He was not a fun drinking and eating companion. Yeah, I was surprised too.

Maybe it was just an off night. Who knows?

Edited to add: To put it in perspective, I had a better time at dinner with William F. Buckley. So that's sayin' something.

Blixa, you're breaking my heart! I haven't been this disappointed since I found out there isn't a Santa Claus. Next time I catch you in chat I'll have to ask you for the details on that dinner.
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Molok wrote:
Blixa, you're breaking my heart! I haven't been this disappointed since I found out there isn't a Santa Claus. Next time I catch you in chat I'll have to ask you for the details on that dinner.


Well, it was almost 40 years ago, so I don't have the most fresh and vivid memory of it.

When I was at the U, I was on the Chrony staff and also involved in student government. Because of that I was involved at various times in both the selection of campus speakers and coverage of the events. So, sometimes I interviewed various speakers and in the process hung out with them and sometimes I was part of a committee that took the speakers out to dinner. In the Hunter Thompson case it was more a hanging out after the talk with a group of other student journalists. We ate and drank at some off campus dive (Big Ed's?) and I think later adjourned to someone's apartment. Throughout the entire ordeal Thompson was incommunicative, drunk and conveying a vibe of "I am a big deal and all of you are not." One expected a drunken raconteur, not a sullen drunk. But maybe he was tired of performing or being expected to perform in that persona. Or maybe he was having some unspecified personal problems that day. Or maybe he was just very, very drunk. (by the way, as far as I could tell, alcohol was the only substance being consumed.) But it was disappointing.
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Natalie Portman

I would be nervous talking to her but she seems really interesting.
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honorentheos wrote:
Morley wrote:I'll play. Mine are all people for whom I have two or more, tormenting, unanswered questions.


Gustavus Adolphus
Sir Richard Burton
Sally Hemings
Rashid ad-Din Sinan (The Old Man of the Mountain)
Walt Whitman
Suleiman the Magnificent
Mosheh ben Maimon
Joan of Acre
Sylvia Plath
Frederick Douglass
Ragnar Lodbrok
Cleitus the Black



Edit to add alternates:

Ho Chi Minh
Omar Khayyam
Sydney Rigdon

Would you mind sharing some of your questions? I'd be interested in what you'd ask Omar Khayyam, for example.


Ha! I guess I asked for that. Sure, I'll type it up after the semester and holidays are over.

My question for Omar Khayyam would be regarding his thoughts on the problem of evil. This is a recurrent theme in his quatrains, but elsewhere he seems to explain it away and forgive God. Islam usually avoids this issue; Khayyam doesn't.

I'd also ask him about the geocentric-heliocentric controversy. If I remember correctly, he calculated the rotation of the earth. Fitzgerald assumed that this meant Khayyam understood the sun as the center of the solar system. Others have disputed this.
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Re: The Dinner Party of Eternity

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Morley wrote:Ha! I guess I asked for that. Sure, I'll type it up after the semester and holidays are over.

My question for Omar Khayyam would be regarding his thoughts on the problem of evil. This is a recurrent theme in his quatrains, but elsewhere he seems to explain it away and forgive God. Islam usually avoids this issue; Khayyam doesn't.

I'd also ask him about the geocentric-heliocentric controversy. If I remember correctly, he calculated the rotation of the earth. Fitzgerald assumed that this meant Khayyam understood the sun as the center of the solar system. Others have disputed this.

Thanks, Morley! I hadn't heard about his potential calculation of the rotation of the earth/heliocentric views. It would certainly be interesting to meet and talk with one of the guardians of knowledge during the European dark ages, though, and he seems like a great choice.

I don't think I could put a list together...for a dinner party anyway. Almost everyone mentioned so far would be great to have coffee with, though in my opinion.

But a dinner party...hmm. Of those listed so far, Sterling McMurrin seems like he would make a great dinner guest. I'd add Richard Feynman. In my imagined vision of Khayyam I have to think he would be a great person to share a table with, both for knowledge & wit as well as love of wine. I might borrow him if your primary guests arrive and you don't need an alternate. If there were a historical person who we now call Helen of Troy...she must have a helluva story to tell so she's in. I want the gossip on that event.

Maybe that's it. I have to image those four would have a lot of questions for the group as well as be able to enjoy the moment. I'll save the extra seats for another party, another time.
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I've been going over and over this and can't reach any possible resolution. I can't narrow the number down and I get stuck mulling over how to pair good conversationalists, etc. Argh.

Here's the group of people I've compiled and been trying to configure into various smaller dinner parties:

Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Catullus
Yukio Mishima
George Sand
Sei Shonagon
Joe Orton
Vladimir Nabokov
Gore Vidal
Sir Richard Burton
Louise Brooks
Robert Smithson
Boudica
Chris Marker
Lionel Stander
David Wojnarowicz
Peter Lorre
Rosa Luxemburg

I just can't do it, so I'm gonna go with a private dinner for two with Robert Mitchum.
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Re: The Dinner Party of Eternity

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Adam
Eve
Cain
Enoch
Noah
Nimrod
Mahonri Moriancummur
David
Bathsheba
John the Beloved
Joseph Smith

Cain and Nimrod should make for some interesting conversations. I would not presume to invite God.
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