Who Is Racist?

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Re: Who Is Racist?

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Droopy wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:Black and brown people have suffered from discrimination by the "white" people of this country for many generations. It still continues despite laws that have tried to rectify that. .



CFR


Slavery? Genocide of Native Americans? People such as yourself that are racist?

It's a long list.
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Re: Who Is Racist?

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When have black or brown people had a chance to discriminate against whites?


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/03 ... ed-attack/

Police in Kansas City are investigating a possible hate crime after a 13-year-old boy was doused in gasoline and set on fire. According to Allen Goin’s mother, the attack occurred just as her son was getting home from school. She said, “They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open…one of them poured gasoline, then flicked the Bic and said, ‘This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve white boy.’”

The police say the boy was engulfed in a “large fireball,” but was able to beat out the flames to call 911 and his father. In addition to suffering first degree burns, he has lost his eyebrows, eyelashes, and part of the skin on his face. There is also long-term concern about his eyes and lungs.

The family intends to move out of fear that the attackers went to their son’s school, which KMBC reports he will not return to. Melissa Coon, the boy’s mother, said her youngest son, 5, asked her, “Mom, am I going to get set on fire today?”


Why didn't the mainstream media report this story? Where was the national outrage about this?
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Re: Who Is Racist?

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ajax18 wrote:
When have black or brown people had a chance to discriminate against whites?


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/03 ... ed-attack/

Police in Kansas City are investigating a possible hate crime after a 13-year-old boy was doused in gasoline and set on fire. According to Allen Goin’s mother, the attack occurred just as her son was getting home from school. She said, “They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open…one of them poured gasoline, then flicked the Bic and said, ‘This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve white boy.’”

The police say the boy was engulfed in a “large fireball,” but was able to beat out the flames to call 911 and his father. In addition to suffering first degree burns, he has lost his eyebrows, eyelashes, and part of the skin on his face. There is also long-term concern about his eyes and lungs.

The family intends to move out of fear that the attackers went to their son’s school, which KMBC reports he will not return to. Melissa Coon, the boy’s mother, said her youngest son, 5, asked her, “Mom, am I going to get set on fire today?”


Why didn't the mainstream media report this story? Where was the national outrage about this?


????

The story you posted didn't say who was responsible. Nor did it identify the victim. If in fact this was a racial action against a white child by "ethnics", how does this balance against the enslavery and multiple lynchings of blacks or the extermination of whole tribes of Native Americans by the Europeans?

Bad things are done by all peoples. In this country, the evil done by whites to everyone else is more than a thousandfold. Like me, you have a lot of guilt to bear.
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Quasimodo wrote:As long as you have been alive and much longer than that, white people have been running this country. For the first few hundred years, black people were slaves in this country. In those same few hundred years, brown people were targeted for extermination.



This is utter ahistorical nonsense, and is not worth further comment. As for the rest, you've provided not a shred of evidence to support your claim that white racism on any significant scale still "still continues despite laws that have tried to rectify that."
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Quasimodo wrote:quote="Droopy"quote="Quasimodo"
Black and brown people have suffered from discrimination by the "white" people of this country for many generations. It still continues despite laws that have tried to rectify that. .


CFR


Slavery? Genocide of Native Americans? People such as yourself that are racist?

It's a long list.


1. Slavery still exists in America?

2. There was no "genocide" of Amerindians, either carried out or contemplated by the United States government or its military.

3. CFR that I'm a racist, based upon any posts I've ever made, here or in any other forum.
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ajax18 wrote:How many liberals would even admit that it's possible for a nonwhite person to be racist? .


Most.
(Myself included)

This expectation of yours is just more evidence that conservatives get their notion of what liberals are about from other conservatives in the bubble.

Would you at least admit that racism against nonwhites has been the main form of racism for centuries and has tended to be the kind of racism that has most often gotten itself into norms, social institutions and culture? Would you also admit a long historical tendency for power and wealth differentials to favor whites more often by far than the reverse?
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Like me, you have a lot of guilt to bear.


That sounds pretty racist to me. I'm not calling you a racist personally. But saying we're both guilty for being white is racist. I thought moving past racism meant looking at people as individuals rather continuing to harp on what their ancestors or someone who looked like them does or in this case did many generations ago. This guilt thing is what continues to fan the fires of racism. Perhaps the sooner we stop accusing each other of racism, the sooner it will end.

Just being of European ancestry doesn't even mean your family profited from colonialism or slavery much less passed that profit on to someone born hundreds of years later. Some profited, some didn't. A lot of white Americans immigrated to this country after slavery. What happened to the liberal mantra of the children not being responsible for the sins of their fathers?
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Tarski wrote:This expectation of yours is just more evidence that conservatives get their notion of what liberals are about from other conservatives in the bubble.


No, Tarski, its just a consideration based upon a long (at least 30 year) assertion, very popular within black studies departments, among Afrocentrist professors and public intellectuals, the black power movement, and leftist black media pundits, that blacks cannot be racists because blacks do not have political and social power in America - they are not the dominant political group, in other words.

According to this definition, racism isn't an individual psychological attribute but an expression of social dominance among racial/ethinic collectives who hold dominant positions of political and police power as members of ideologically undifferentiated in-groups.

Hence, the Black Panthers are not a racist group because they have no access to and do not wield political power in any significant or direct manner. The black teenager holding a gun to your head and telling you he's gonna blow your creepy-ass cracker head off for what your ancestors did to his people two centuries ago cannot be a racist because he has no political voice or power. In other words, to be a racist, he would have to wield political power in company with a dominant group of other blacks such that he could put you and other white people, by the force of law, in a diversity reeducation camp and have you shot there. Just putting a gun to your head and blowing your brains out because you're white doesn't rise to that level.
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Re: Who Is Racist?

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Droopy wrote:1. Slavery still exists in America?


What fun to answer these questions! Slavery was completely abolished in 1865. A mere 148 years ago. Seven generations ago. If you add to that the years where racial discrimination was officially tolerated, it's only been about 48 years. Two generations.

Droopy wrote:2. There was no "genocide" of Amerindians, either carried out or contemplated by the United States government or its military.



Gen. Philip Sheridan "The only good Indian is a dead Indian"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Sheridan

You might be the only person left alive that would say something as dumb as that. As far as I know, you are the only person that denies there was a concerted effort to remove Native Americans from their land.

Droopy wrote:3. CFR that I'm a racist, based upon any posts I've ever made, here or in any other forum.


I find CFR's childish, but since it's important to you, how about this last post of yours that I'm answering?
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Re: Who Is Racist?

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ajax18 wrote:
Like me, you have a lot of guilt to bear.


That sounds pretty racist to me. I'm not calling you a racist personally. But saying we're both guilty for being white is racist. I thought moving past racism meant looking at people as individuals rather continuing to harp on what their ancestors or someone who looked like them does or in this case did many generations ago. This guilt thing is what continues to fan the fires of racism. Perhaps the sooner we stop accusing each other of racism, the sooner it will end.

Just being of European ancestry doesn't even mean your family profited from colonialism or slavery much less passed that profit on to someone born hundreds of years later. Some profited, some didn't. A lot of white Americans immigrated to this country after slavery. What happened to the liberal mantra of the children not being responsible for the sins of their fathers?


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