Themis wrote:subgenius wrote:and now we see the desperation....as the ego of Themis frantically clings on to its own fabrication of what it surely must "know" to be true....
where should i send your new shirt?
Why not try some substance instead of insults...
Themis wrote:subgenius wrote:and now we see the desperation....as the ego of Themis frantically clings on to its own fabrication of what it surely must "know" to be true....
where should i send your new shirt?
Why not try some substance instead of insults. You really think you are doing anything here to expand discussion and understanding? Your behavior is that of an idiot. It's certainly not Christian behavior that you profess to be. It's why most people ignore most of what you say.
Bazooka wrote:
*pssst*
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Subgenius doesn't do substance, it's like his board trademark or something....
subgenius wrote:cry me a river....madeleine just handed you your hat with a concise, sincere, and conclusive repsonse....but rather than employ substance of your own, you respond with more back-handed self-serving rhetoric that just perpetuates your tired and tail chasing argument of "show me the money!"...when you have yet to check your own wallet.
Themis wrote:madeleine,
You have already answered my question about how you know. You don't really know but believe. This is what I suspected. None of the sources about Jesus are contemporary. All come after. It's one thing to look at Jesus being a real person. Quite another about the supernatural claims about him. They are not substantiated at all through any physical evidence I am aware of.Indeed, I accept the source of a divine being, Jesus Christ. :-)
LOL This statement appears to be purposely unclear. Do you believe truth can be shown you by the Holy Ghost?
We tend to keep our spiritual experiences private. Even when I am teaching those who want to become Catholic, I let the Spirit do the work. By that I mean, I don't give mushy mushy accounts of finding car keys. 
People need their own experiences, not mine. People need to come to faith in their own way. I help break open the Word of God. The rest is the work of the Spirit, not me. subgenius wrote:and now we see the desperation....as the ego of Themis frantically clings on to its own fabrication of what it surely must "know" to be true....
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Themis wrote:madeleine,
You have already answered my question about how you know. You don't really know but believe. This is what I suspected. None of the sources about Jesus are contemporary. All come after. It's one thing to look at Jesus being a real person. Quite another about the supernatural claims about him. They are not substantiated at all through any physical evidence I am aware of.Indeed, I accept the source of a divine being, Jesus Christ. :-)
LOL This statement appears to be purposely unclear. Do you believe truth can be shown you by the Holy Ghost?
madeleine wrote:
Reason informs faith, and faith informs reason. You asked for the reason part.
The Holy Ghost is a feeling for Mormons and those who know nothing other than Mormonism. I don't run on feelings, but certainly, I did not come to faith on my own, and not by reason alone. The two have worked together, faith, being a gift of the Holy Spirit. I encountered Christ, and have been wounded by that encounter, is the best explanation I can give.
Truth can be found in a flower, no? You have to remember, I have an atheist/humanist/nihilist/existentialist/ and other assorted -ist past. :-) Truth can be found in a lot of places, but what I have come to finally, is that all Truth has a source.
LittleNipper wrote:The people who wrote the New Testament were contemporaries of Jesus. And they suffered for their faith. All except one of the Apostles died for that faith. Lives were changed from pagan to righteousness. Old habits were seen as evil and no longer deemed acceptable. The modern world is the result of "Christianity" and not paganism, Islam, Buddhism, or Confucianism. Yet they have been greatly influenced by "Judeo/Christian " ethic/beliefs. Such brought us "public" education, hospitals, orphanages, and even an end to open slavery. Silly as it seems, but even "I Love Lucy," "Leave it to Beaver," "The Christmas Carol," and "It's a Wonderful Life," show that Christian influence to some degree. And now as society is becoming less Christian, that influence is slowly turning again towards PAGANISM/HEDONISM/SOCIALISM. So there is obvious proof of what one sows, that is what one reaps. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction...
Themis wrote:LittleNipper wrote:The people who wrote the New Testament were contemporaries of Jesus. And they suffered for their faith. All except one of the Apostles died for that faith. Lives were changed from pagan to righteousness. Old habits were seen as evil and no longer deemed acceptable. The modern world is the result of "Christianity" and not paganism, Islam, Buddhism, or Confucianism. Yet they have been greatly influenced by "Judeo/Christian " ethic/beliefs. Such brought us "public" education, hospitals, orphanages, and even an end to open slavery. Silly as it seems, but even "I Love Lucy," "Leave it to Beaver," "The Christmas Carol," and "It's a Wonderful Life," show that Christian influence to some degree. And now as society is becoming less Christian, that influence is slowly turning again towards PAGANISM/HEDONISM/SOCIALISM. So there is obvious proof of what one sows, that is what one reaps. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction...
Feel free to provide some evidence. I see you also have a very ignorant and incorrect view of the world.
