Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

[Guest]

Here is another book that Chris Johnson discussed: Modeste Grau, The First Book of Napoleon, the Tyrant of the Earth, published in London in 1809.

And behold, it came to pass, in these latter days, that an evil spirit arose on the face of the earth, and greatly troubled the sons of men.

2. And this spirit seized upon, and spread abroad amongst the people who dwell in the land of Gaul.

3. Now, in this people the fear of the Lord had not been for many generations, and they had become a corrupt and perverse people; and their chief priests, and the nobles of the land, and the learned men thereof, had become wicked in the imaginations of their hearts, and in the practice of their lives.

4. And the evil spirit went abroad amongst the people, and they raged like unto the heathen, and they rose up against their lawful king, and slew him, and his queen also, and the prince their son; yea, verily, with a cruel and bloody death.

http://archive.org/stream/firstbooknapole00gruagoog#page/n17/mode/2up

[_Kishkumen]

This one looks equally promising, and, in some respects, its language is even closer to the Book of Mormon than the 1812 epic.

[Guest]

Here's an interesting nugget:

Apparently there is a book by John Walker that lists pronunciation of old greek, latin and scripture names. Many Book of Mormon names come from this list. Also, see:

Unspecified editions [of Walker's book] were advertised for sale in such diverse
publications as the Palmyra Herald for September 24, 1823 [III:28], Poor Richard's Almanack for 1829
(published by Elihu F. Marshall, Rochester, the first man to agree to print the Book of Mormon),
and in the publisher's ads at the end of Gilbert J. Hunt's The Late War (MP 193).

Source for information on John Walker's book.

I'd never heard of John Walker's book. That is worth a read too. (Or at least the least of names referenced in the PDF I linked.) There are a LOT of Book of Mormon names in there.

[_Kishkumen]

Has anyone already done a thorough comparison of this yet?

A fellow by the name of Chris Johnson presented on this book and another about Napoleon at the ex-Mo conference.

The crap is about to hit the fan, my friends.

The Napoleon book is also amazing.

[_Shulem]

Here is another book that Chris Johnson discussed: Modeste Grau, The First Book of Napoleon, the Tyrant of the Earth, published in London in 1909.

It was published in 1809 not 1909. This makes a huge difference.

SILVER BULLETS!!!



Paul O

[_DrW]

Here is another book that Chris Johnson discussed: Modeste Grau, The First Book of Napoleon, the Tyrant of the Earth, published in London in 1909.
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http://archive.org/stream/firstbooknapole00gruagoog#page/n17/mode/2up

Kish,

Looks as if you have a typo in the quoted post: 1909 should be 1809.

The First Book of Napoleon, the Tyrant of the Earth
Eliakim the Scribe (Grau Modeste)

Published by Longman,Hurst,Reese,Orme&Stockdale, London, First Edition, 1809

[_Kishkumen]

Here's an interesting nugget:

Apparently there is a book by John Walker that lists pronunciation of old greek, latin and scripture names. Many Book of Mormon names come from this list. Also, see:

Unspecified editions [of Walker's book] were advertised for sale in such diverse
publications as the Palmyra Herald for September 24, 1823 [III:28], Poor Richard's Almanack for 1829
(published by Elihu F. Marshall, Rochester, the first man to agree to print the Book of Mormon),
and in the publisher's ads at the end of Gilbert J. Hunt's The Late War (MP 193).

Source for information on John Walker's book.

I'd never heard of John Walker's book. That is worth a read too. (Or at least the least of names referenced in the PDF I linked.) There are a LOT of Book of Mormon names in there.

So, whoever had seen a copy of Walker, and looks as though Smith may well have, could have seen an ad for the Hunt book, eh?

[_Kishkumen]

Looks as if you have a typo in the quoted post: 1909 should be 1809.

Indeed, DrW. That is what I had intended to type. Thanks for catching that!

[_ControlFreak]

So, whoever had seen a copy of Walker, and looks as though Smith may well have, could have seen an ad for the Hunt book, eh?

Seems like it. At a minimum, it shows that people reading the book that very suspiciously lists most of the weird Book of Mormon names (You are in there too!) were also the target audience for this very BoMesque book.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Even if one rejects the "Late War" as the source, it's still devastating. I'm Googling some of the "curious" phrases from the book, and hits not only come up from the Book of Mormon, but the MI, which appears to be offline at the moment. After this discovery, they may wish to leave it that way.

It looks like there are dozens, if not more, LDS articles on why the phrase "curious workmanship" helps show the divinity of the Book of Mormon.

Now what? Michael Ash, help!!!