Problematic John Dehlin, a short list

[dastardly stem]

Apparently Dehlin was for a time.

You mean, when he put the two terms next to each other on his list of services? No, Lem, listing them as two separate things means he does know there is a difference.

I thought the pass people were trying to give him for advertising psychotherapy was he was a bit ignorant that by so advertising he was doing someyhing illegal or illegitimate? Sounds like you now agree he was being intentionally deceptive? Not sure I'm feeling too concerned, anyone going to John for life coaching...hmm how do I finish that sentence without being harsh on at least two people?

[Kishkumen]

I thought the pass people were trying to give him for advertising psychotherapy was he was a bit ignorant that by so advertising he was doing someyhing illegal or illegitimate? Sounds like you now agree he was being intentionally deceptive? Not sure I'm feeling too concerned, anyone going to John for life coaching...hmm how do I finish that sentence without being harsh on at least two people?

LOL!!!!

Wow, stem. That's pretty hilarious. So, your argument would be that John Dehlin did not know there was a difference between psychotherapy and life coaching even though he advertised them as separate things. It is as though one were to say, "psychotherapy and life coaching" is the exact same things as "psychotherapy, you know, like life coaching, man." He actually could know that they were different things and yet erroneously offer psychotherapy that he was not permitted to provide by Utah law. Right? Furthermore, this could have been an honest mistake. It also may not have been. That still doesn't help Lem's attempt at humor, and it also doesn't change the fact that, Jiminy Cricket, I marvel at this phenomenon wherein someone has their life scrutinized in this minute, exacting, and incredibly uncharitable way by a mob of randos on the internet. It is damn freaky.

[Tavares Standfield]

So, your argument would be that John Dehlin did not know there was a difference between psychotherapy and life coaching even though he advertised them as separate things.

Doh! Great observation, Reverend.

[Tavares Standfield]

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[Kishkumen]

For someone who thinks they are so smart and clever, you are actually pretty f**cking stupid.

LOL!!! OK, Tavares. You think John Dehlin did not know the difference between psychotherapy and life coaching? He as basically saying the same thing in two different ways? He removed psychotherapy because he thought, "Duh, I already listed life coaching, so I have it covered."

I am eager to get your take on this since you seem to have a strong opinion.

[Tavares Standfield]

For someone who thinks they are so smart and clever, you are actually pretty f**cking stupid.

LOL!!! OK, Tavares. You think John Dehlin did not know the difference between psychotherapy and life coaching? He as basically saying the same thing in two different ways? He removed psychotherapy because he thought, "Duh, I already listed life coaching, so I have it covered."

I am eager to get your take on this since you seem to have a strong opinion.

My apologies dear Reverend. I mistakenly replied to your post instead of Lem's.

I am in full agreement with your assessment.

[Kishkumen]

My apologies dear Reverend. I mistakenly replied to your post instead of Lem's.

I am in full agreement with your assesment.

No worries, Tavares. My understanding of Lem is different from yours. Lem is highly intelligent. We deeply disagree about things, and, yes, I think she is most definitely incorrect in her approach to this situation, but at the end of the day I think there are many more important things that she and I agree on. What we don't seem to agree on right now is that we should continue to call John Dehlin's actions in 2012 sexual harassment. There are also many other things she and I disagree about, but they are usually more quantitative instead of qualitative in nature.

[Lem]

After all, many are too stupid to tell the difference between life coaching and psychotherapy, which are two terms that look practically the same.

Apparently Dehlin was for a time.

You mean, when he put the two terms next to each other on his list of services? No, Lem, listing them as two separate things means he does know there is a difference.

I thought the pass people were trying to give him for advertising psychotherapy was he was a bit ignorant that by so advertising he was doing someyhing illegal or illegitimate? Sounds like you now agree he was being intentionally deceptive?

Exactly my point. Advertising both but neglecting the licensing required for one implies either ignorance or intent, but not both.

Not sure I'm feeling too concerned, anyone going to John for life coaching...hmm how do I finish that sentence without being harsh on at least two people?

[Tavares Standfield]

Lem is highly intelligent. We deeply disagree about things, and, yes, I think she is most definitely incorrect in her approach to this situation, but at the end of the day I think there are many more important things that she and I agree on.

Bold is mine (if I don't say that, Lem will end up having a really bad day).

I appreciate your charitable approach. But as this JD discussion has proven, Lem lacks the ability to recognize the plain reality of a situation. Rather, she grabs onto absurd literal interpretations to make some obscure point. To me, this is a sign of activism.

[Kishkumen]

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