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_Ceeboo
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Agnostic!

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Hello friends! :smile:

With very few exceptions - aren't we all really agnostic?

Yes, there are different degrees within agnosticism - various shades of agnosticism - but if we were to dig deep - aren't we all agnostic - to at least some degree?


Thoughts?

Peace,
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_Maksutov
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Re: Agnostic!

Post by _Maksutov »

I guess it depends on what we're agnostic about.

There's a level of thinking where I can understand the appeal of the concept of "Maya"--that the world is illusion. Or you can look at it like Aldous Huxley, that the universe is infinite but the restrictive doors of our perception limit it. Or you can say with the Christians that "we see through a glass, darkly." These seem to be ways of saying that humans have a lot of uncertainty and therefore speculate about things. I'm not sure what else it implies. What do you think?
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Re: Agnostic!

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Ceeboo wrote:Hello friends! :smile:

With very few exceptions - aren't we all really agnostic?

Yes, there are different degrees within agnosticism - various shades of agnosticism - but if we were to dig deep - aren't we all agnostic - to at least some degree?


Thoughts?

Peace,
Ceeboo


I agree, Ceeboo. When it comes to the big picture, no one really KNOWS anything. We can only believe that we have the answers; we can't prove it.
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Re: Agnostic!

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I am an agnostic apatheist.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.

Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
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Re: Agnostic!

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SteelHead wrote:I am an agnostic apatheist.

Amen. Once I decided that the best way to live a moral life was to listen first and foremost to my own conscience, the desperate need to determine if God exists disappeared.
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I'm an atheist-agnostic if that makes any sense.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Agnostic!

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Ceeboo wrote:Hello friends! :smile:

With very few exceptions - aren't we all really agnostic?

Yes, there are different degrees within agnosticism - various shades of agnosticism - but if we were to dig deep - aren't we all agnostic - to at least some degree?


Thoughts?

Peace,
Ceeboo

Hi, Ceeboo, since the question cannot be resolved until a supernatural being might appear to me, I don't much bother about that question. I'd just be spinning my wheels, wasting my time on a riddle. That leaves me more technically apatheistic--one who considers the question of the existence of gods as neither meaningful nor relevant to their life. Unlike some apatheists, if it were possible to prove that god does or does not exist, I might change my behavior. It would depend on the circumstances of that experience. I would actually think a term "apa-agnostic" might actually be more apt.
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Re: Agnostic!

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jo1952 wrote:I agree, Ceeboo. When it comes to the big picture, no one really KNOWS anything. We can only believe that we have the answers; we can't prove it.


I have come to the conclusion that I don't really need to know or believe. I would like to have the final answer (one way or the other), but I'm fine with not knowing and not pretending to know. For me, having a belief about God is the same as pretending to know for self comforting reasons.

I think agnosticism is the only intellectually honest position to hold. I have my guesses, but they are only guesses.

Eventually, I will know if there is an afterlife or I will know nothing at all. Neither one bothers me very much.
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Re: Agnostic!

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fetchface wrote:
SteelHead wrote:I am an agnostic apatheist.

Amen. Once I decided that the best way to live a moral life was to listen first and foremost to my own conscience, the desperate need to determine if God exists disappeared.


This.
Accepting that this life might be all there is has actually stimulated me to live a more fulfilling life.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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Re: Agnostic!

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Hey all!
Thanks for the interesting replies. :smile:

Looking forward to hearing others chime in too.

Peace,
Ceeboo
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