Themis wrote:No because you haven't spent the time to understand the details of how it works and what they have done to consider how accurate certain dating methods should be considered. They are some basic sites that will start you on the way.
Actually I am not the one stuck in a paradigm.
You are just the one who doesn't know enough about the subject to make the conclusions you are making. It's also why you are not addressing the examples I have given on a few of the many ways they try to figure out how old things are.
Themis wrote:You are just the one who doesn't know enough about the subject to make the conclusions you are making. It's also why you are not addressing the examples I have given on a few of the many ways they try to figure out how old things are.
I just love the way people who are stuck in a paradigm act. Instead of accepting that someone may have a contrary opinion they jump to the conclusion that no one could possibly have a different opinion than theirs. So anyone who holds a contrary opinion must be uneducated or somehow delusional.
This same thing happens in religion. People reject the notion that anyone could hold a different view of God than they do. Fun to watch this part of the human condition. So predictable.
Themis wrote:You are just the one who doesn't know enough about the subject to make the conclusions you are making. It's also why you are not addressing the examples I have given on a few of the many ways they try to figure out how old things are.
I just love the way people who are stuck in a paradigm act. Instead of accepting that someone may have a contrary opinion they jump to the conclusion that no one could possibly have a different opinion than theirs. So anyone who holds a contrary opinion must be uneducated or somehow delusional.
This same thing happens in religion. People reject the notion that anyone could hold a different view of God than they do. Fun to watch this part of the human condition. So predictable.
Special pleading, trying to turn religion into science and science into religion. So predictable of you, Frank. I even predicted you'd go down the "paradigm" path again, hoping that Thomas Kuhn will save you and every other pseudoscientist from your thorough refutation.
You never have evidence and you think everything can be waved away as opinion, because that's all you have. Your pride in your ignorance is really impressive, though.
Franktalk wrote:I just love the way people who are stuck in a paradigm act. Instead of accepting that someone may have a contrary opinion they jump to the conclusion that no one could possibly have a different opinion than theirs.
You are certainly not very intelligent. I never said anything to imply what you say above. My posts are all about my realizing you have a different opinion.
So anyone who holds a contrary opinion must be uneducated or somehow delusional.
Not at all. Your posting of your opinion and your ignoring the facts expose your opinion as uneducated. If you were better educated about the issues you would deal with them instead of this attacking people who are exposing your ignorance. Now how about deal with what I have brought up.
Themis wrote:Not at all. Your posting of your opinion and your ignoring the facts expose your opinion as uneducated. If you were better educated about the issues you would deal with them instead of this attacking people who are exposing your ignorance. Now how about deal with what I have brought up.
There are many on the earth that believe a different history than you or I do. Are they all ignorant? Or do they feel the west has lied to them?
Themis wrote:Not at all. Your posting of your opinion and your ignoring the facts expose your opinion as uneducated. If you were better educated about the issues you would deal with them instead of this attacking people who are exposing your ignorance. Now how about deal with what I have brought up.
There are many on the earth that believe a different history than you or I do. Are they all ignorant? Or do they feel the west has lied to them?
Why do you think it is that some people believe they are being lied to?
Holocaust denial, evolution denial, Truther. That's the basic bundle, Frank. Where is the stuff about UFOs and HAARP and chemtrails and vaccines and the Black Knight and the Atlanteans and the Lemurians and Bigfoot and ghosts and angels and Grassy Knolls and crop circles?
Every time I check in on this everlasting thread, you appear more clueless and, well, wrong.
You must be old enough to have seen in your own lifetime how mainstream science has improved the quality of life for citizens of countries that engage in scientific research and development, and for humankind in general. Consider scientific advances in:
-health care and medicine, especially medical diagnostics -pharmaceuticals -computing -communication -aerospace -transportation -environmental protection and the list goes on
What have creationists and other science deniers accomplished for humankind in your lifetime?
Do you really identify with the creationists, fundamental religionists, Holocaust deniers, climate change deniers, and the anti-science crazies of all stripes that you continue to cite and refer to in support of the nonsense you spout around here?
By their fruits ye shall know them, Frank.
What have you, or indeed the people you seem to emulate, ever accomplished for the betterment of humankind?
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
I try and look at the whole of mankind. It is very diverse and many belief systems are vastly different than what you would call normal. But normal is relative. Depending on where you are born you could be educated in a wide variety of belief systems. I do try and not judge anyone on their beliefs. I believe that the traditions of men make this world a better place. It sure does make it more interesting.
In viewing the comments written about me I find it easy to see why many people in the world believe the west is arrogant and self serving. What is written to me is part of a pattern that the entire west has used in dealing with any idea not born of the American education system.
You can sit there and believe that you have the higher ground. You can believe that truth and science will win the day. But many countries in the past felt that same way and now they are dust.
So feel free to tell me I am wrong about everything. I expect it from most people who are educated in America. But be careful, that pride you feel may lead to your downfall.
I try and look at the whole of mankind. It is very diverse and many belief systems are vastly different than what you would call normal. But normal is relative. Depending on where you are born you could be educated in a wide variety of belief systems. I do try and not judge anyone on their beliefs. I believe that the traditions of men make this world a better place. It sure does make it more interesting.
In viewing the comments written about me I find it easy to see why many people in the world believe the west is arrogant and self serving. What is written to me is part of a pattern that the entire west has used in dealing with any idea not born of the American education system.
You can sit there and believe that you have the higher ground. You can believe that truth and science will win the day. But many countries in the past felt that same way and now they are dust.
So feel free to tell me I am wrong about everything.
I just did. Please see my last post upthread.
Franktalk wrote:I expect it from most people who are educated in America.
Sorry that your opinion of the American education system is so low. However, my enlightened outlook is mainly a result of education in the UK.
Franktalk wrote:But be careful, that pride you feel may lead to your downfall.
Or not.
Fact is, if one were to ask me (in a Dr. Phil sort of way), "How is that working for you so far?", I would happily to reply, "A lot better than I ever expected - and a whole hell of a lot better than when I was an active member of the LDS Church."
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
There are many on the earth that believe a different history than you or I do. Are they all ignorant? Or do they feel the west has lied to them?
I am just curious as h*ll who Franktalk is referring to that are not on the earth. I can't ignore his posts, the anticipation is too great. I must find out.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
