Maksutov wrote:The oldest fragments of the Bible in existence were written by human hand. No reason to think that the contents didn't have human origin as well. The same is true of those who claim to channel the will, word, mind, whatever, of God. It's still coming from a human brain through human lips or pen, no matter what the writer says about themselves.
Funny though that CCC didn't read Joseph's claims and decided it was the one he will trust in. He had to have other people tell him to trust them in their trust of Joseph's claims. Even if we look at the spiritual he is trusting in how other people told him to interpret sensations he may experience. I did the same for most of my life.
Nope. Not even close. I trust my experiences with God.
Every word of the Scriptures including the Bible were written by man. Inspired, by maybe even dictated by God. But still written and interpreted by man. I'm just rather selective as to what I believe God told these men to write.
Nope. Not even close. I trust my experiences with God.
Every word of the Scriptures including the Bible were written by man. Inspired, by maybe even dictated by God. But still written and interpreted by man. I'm just rather selective as to what I believe God told these men to write.
So are Islamic fundamentalists. Unfounded belief is like that. It develops in a self imposed evidence free environment in the brain and therefore tends to be selective in accordance with the subjective feelings of the individual believer.
This being the case, any correlation between these unfounded beliefs and objective reality is purely coincidental.
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David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW wrote:So are Islamic fundamentalists. Unfounded belief is like that. It develops in a self imposed evidence free environment in the brain and therefore tends to be selective in accordance with the subjective feelings of the individual believer.
You are absolutely correct. Any man who is inspired by the scripture to take the inward journey will receive his own subjective feelings back at him. This is described in symbolic form in Eze 14. But the man who cast the world aside and takes no desires with him on his inward journey receives the spirit of truth. This was described by Jesus and written in John. Since the vast majority of the people on this planet have never cast the world aside then they receive their own subjective feelings back at them when they read the scriptures. So you observing this have formed a correct assessment of the religious world.
DrW wrote:So are Islamic fundamentalists. Unfounded belief is like that. It develops in a self imposed evidence free environment in the brain and therefore tends to be selective in accordance with the subjective feelings of the individual believer.
You are absolutely correct. Any man who is inspired by the scripture to take the inward journey will receive his own subjective feelings back at him. This is described in symbolic form in Eze 14. But the man who cast the world aside and takes no desires with him on his inward journey receives the spirit of truth. This was described by Jesus and written in John. Since the vast majority of the people on this planet have never cast the world aside then they receive their own subjective feelings back at them when they read the scriptures. So you observing this have formed a correct assessment of the religious world.
What does "cast the world aside" mean?
So how is your reading of the scriptures anything but "receiving your own subjective feelings back at you"?
Nope. Not even close. I trust my experiences with God.
Every word of the Scriptures including the Bible were written by man. Inspired, by maybe even dictated by God. But still written and interpreted by man. I'm just rather selective as to what I believe God told these men to write.
You trust other people and how they have told you to interpret those experiences. You have never meet the guy. How did you establish any experience comes from God without trusting what other people have told you to do?
DrW wrote:So are Islamic fundamentalists. Unfounded belief is like that. It develops in a self imposed evidence free environment in the brain and therefore tends to be selective in accordance with the subjective feelings of the individual believer.
You are absolutely correct. Any man who is inspired by the scripture to take the inward journey will receive his own subjective feelings back at him. This is described in symbolic form in Eze 14. But the man who cast the world aside and takes no desires with him on his inward journey receives the spirit of truth. This was described by Jesus and written in John. Since the vast majority of the people on this planet have never cast the world aside then they receive their own subjective feelings back at them when they read the scriptures. So you observing this have formed a correct assessment of the religious world.
CCC, what is the difference between your inward journey and subjective feelings and Franks here?
