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Somewhat related to this: I want to see the temple name chart, and how they come up with the names. The Temple Name Oracle needs to be as up-to-date as possible!
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.


The church has nothing to hide because most LDS are conservative Republicans. Conservative Republicans love the rich and powerful.

If the church ever publishes it's wealth, I doubt it would have a significant impact.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.


The church has nothing to hide because most LDS are conservative Republicans. Conservative Republicans love the rich and powerful.

If the church ever publishes it's wealth, I doubt it would have a significant impact.


I don't know. I'd like to think there would be a grassroots movement to divert some of the billions, much more than is being done, to actual charity work that is Christlike rather than something that is supposed to enhance the Church's reputation.

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It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/53xktv/leaked_document_temple_purchasing_guide_i_have/

[–]mormondocuments [+2][S] 79 points 7 hours ago

This is probably the least juiciest document I have. The church has ruined my marriage, my life, and my career. I have nothing to lose. I have hundreds of documents (purchasing plans, departmental budgets, secret policy manuals, etc.) and I don't flinch to release them. I will release them over the course of the next week leading up to GenCon - which they spend over $1,000,000 on (yes, I have documentary proof of that too).


https://www.docdroid.net/GXZmSwV/temple-prg-2015.pdf.html

I kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.

- Doc


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From: CRW Cleaning and Restoration Supply
I didn´t know that the church was so into Harry Potter, nor that one could actually buy a carpet wand. $550.51 is superCHeap!!

Then all you need do is wave the wand, Say , "Scourgify!" In a loud voice and the whole place (well, at least the carpets) get cleaned as quick as a whistle.

And!!! This is proof that the church believes in Evolution. Or why else would they order a carpet "Evolution" wand, which must be a wand that grows with the task, or something like that.
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I have a question wrote: is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?


Look, they know that Jesus wouldn't let anything bad happen with his money.

How do they know that? Sorry, the answer is just too sacred to talk about.
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Problems with auto-correct:
In Helaman 6:39, we see the Badmintons, so similar to Skousenite Mormons, taking over the government and abusing the rights of many.
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Always Changing wrote:http://www.ebay.com/bhp/carpet-cleaning-wand


CRW Supply

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Salt Lake City, Utah, United States

http://www.xenia.com/en/company/crw-supply/945141627440

What a lucky coincidence the company is headquartered in SLC.
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I have a question wrote:It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?

Would this level of financial transparency be similar to other large, privately held organizations? Cargill, Deloitte, Dell, and Albertsons are also large, privately held corporations and I wonder if only a few C level executives know the full financial position in each case. All this would really confirm is that the "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" is run by the usual standards of prudent corporate governance. I would have been surprised to see a reporting column for "God" or "Jehovah" (or "Lucifer") after all.
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Corsair wrote:
I have a question wrote:It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?

Would this level of financial transparency be similar to other large, privately held organizations? Cargill, Deloitte, Dell, and Albertsons are also large, privately held corporations and I wonder if only a few C level executives know the full financial position in each case. All this would really confirm is that the "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" is run by the usual standards of prudent corporate governance. I would have been surprised to see a reporting column for "God" or "Jehovah" (or "Lucifer") after all.


I would imagine the main board (15 Apostles) of any large corporation would have full access to the financial reports of that corporation. Including cash flow and investments. It would be staggering if they didn't.
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