Leaked videos of meetings with the Q15

[_cwald]

That's where you and I would disagree.

Regards,
MG

Using mental gymnastics to justify and excuse bad behavior is not a virtue.

[Guest]

I've found no value in anything you've said, you ooze disingenuousness. And I would never take anything you say personally since you are simply just another anonymous apologist.

The feeling is mutual. But I said it first. Nananananana...

Question to self: why am I, a sixty-year old+ man playing on this playground with this kid?

Time for some real genuflection.

Are we done yet, grindael?

Regards,
MG

Actually, you just lied again, because you said you found value in my historical quotes. So you can't even get that right. And if you meant time for some real respect, well, you respect nothing about this place so yeah, why are you here? At this point perhaps getting on your knees will help you, but I doubt it. (if that is what you meant, hard to tell with you, your command of English is so piss-poor). You will even go to lengths to warn others away, but unlike those that truly have integrity, you say one thing and do another. Are you afraid that all those NOM's will also see through you? And "best wishes"? Like I said above, save the platitudes, you've made it clear how you really feel. ARE you done yet?

[_mentalgymnast]

To be fair MG, I do think you offer a unique perspective for MDB posters and draw a fair amount of as hominal attacks. You also give some and let the "live and let live" response take the place of discussion which I think frustrates people looking for more substantial justifications of your positions. I recent revisited MDD and was reminded of how easily responses from the home team peanut gallery can fail to reflect on the actual substance of the discussion, though, and it's fair to say you get some of that here too.

I appreciate those thoughts and I heartily concur.

Regards,
MG

[_Lemmie]

.... You also give some [ad hominem attacks] and let the "live and let live" response take the place of discussion which I think frustrates people looking for more substantial justifications of your positions....

I appreciate those thoughts and I heartily concur.

Regards,
MG

With the middle sentence also, excerpted above? Great to hear!!

[_moksha]

I AM doing mentalgymnastics. Is that inherently evil/bad? I don't think so. In fact, it's kind of fun. Have you ever attempted to do so?

Regards,
MG

Excellent point. In the world of apologetics, rather than using the word "lying", we could think in terms of make-believe. That way we can defend the Gospel and treat ourselves to a healthy dose of fantasy. Rather than being a penguin, I could say I was a walrus and have "goo goo g'joob" as a signature line.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

And it's not great for the MoChurch:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/us/mo ... eaked.html

I mean, it's a pretty straightforward piece. It does establish that the Mormon church is more PAC than spiritual in nature, though.

- Doc

[_Hades]

I was taught to believe these highly spiritual men ran the church by meeting with Jesus everyday. Now I find out they are just old buffoons who talk to Gong everyday. They think a homosexual is someone who come down with "the gay".

[_Tator]

I was taught to believe these highly spiritual men ran the church by meeting with Jesus everyday. Now I find out they are just old buffoons who talk to Gong everyday. They think a homosexual is someone who come down with "the gay".

I was taught and thought the same thing at a young age. I grew out of it. I realized a long time ago that their meetings are no different than the meetings held in the top story of Trump Towers or bowels of the Clinton Foundation. The only difference now is we now have proof.

[_CameronMO]

I was taught to believe these highly spiritual men ran the church by meeting with Jesus everyday. Now I find out they are just old buffoons who talk to Gong everyday. They think a homosexual is someone who come down with "the gay".

I was taught and thought the same thing at a young age. I grew out of it. I realized a long time ago that their meetings are no different than the meetings held in the top story of Trump Towers or bowels of the Clinton Foundation. The only difference now is we now have proof.

Excellent point, Tator. I've recently thought that giving money to the LDS church is no different than giving it to Trump. They're probably competitors. Both are into real estate, malls, housing developments, etc.