If the Bill Reels of the LDS community ran the church, a lot more of those who have left would still be active.
He's a good guy who is willing to listen to ideas that do not conform to his own.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Jersey Girl wrote:Yeah, I know. But why would he rip off our name? I wonder if he knows this board exists?
How could anyone in the Mormon "faith transition" business and podcasting not know? I mean. C'mon.
Anyway. It's interesting to see someone move in on John Dehlin's turf!
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
DBMORMON, why did you choose your site's name to be so similar to ours?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Polygamy-Porter wrote: Typical of zealous defenders. Perhaps he hopes that confusion between mormondiscussions.com and mormondiscussionpodcast.com will help him reel in a few more suckers.
I see what you did there.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The lds church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Fence Sitter wrote:If the Bill Reels of the LDS community ran the church, a lot more of those who have left would still be active.
He's a good guy who is willing to listen to ideas that do not conform to his own.
Oh please.
How so and WHY?
Because I have had direct conversations with him via PMs and followed him on both this board and others. If the church operated their meetings in the manner Bill conducts himself, we would find members with doubts not being driven away but encouraged to express freely their opinions and questions, but then you would know this if you bothered to inform yourself about him.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
When Bill started his podcast and posted on staylds, he was so optimistic and naïve. He really thought he was going to change the church from within. I bet him he would be excommunicated within five years. I have 2 years left before I lose that bet.
I genuinely respect Bill and wish him all the luck. I wish he was right and that the church was what he thought it was and hoped it would become. But it is not. This was my biggest beef with Reel. He really thought and believed the church was something that it simply is not going to be. He asked to interview me when he had first started but I had already moved past the staylds stage and my story did not fit his podcast at the time as he was looking to promote faith and remaining in the church and I no longer believe that was feasible or even recommended.
When he started his podcast he did not know this site existed. He talked about it a little bit on staylds and was actually embarrassed and apologetic because his podcast was more faith believing then this forum and didn't want to confuse the listeners.
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"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
How far would this new and improved Mormon President DB go with that?
Would he allow legally gay couples full membership? Even being sealed in the temple??
Would he allow women to be priesthood holders?
Would he call women to be bishops, stake presidents, and even Apostles???
Would he allow unwed fornicating couples to have full membership?
Would he allow members to give talk on how they oppose certain portions of the theology?
The list is as long as the day.
Yes. Actually I think he would.
Which is why he will be excommunicated within two years.
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
