The First Plastic First Family

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:There you go, Schmo. Now you know what talking to a Special Snowflake is like.

I do consider RI unique (not sure if he's beautiful, but I imagine he is to his loved ones), and I enjoy conversing with him. So I suppose my experience with special snowflakes has been quite positive.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:There you go, Schmo. Now you know what talking to a Special Snowflake is like.

I do consider RI unique (not sure if he's beautiful, but I imagine he is to his loved ones), and I enjoy conversing with him. So I suppose my experience with special snowflakes has been quite positive.


I don't consider myself unique, special, or beautiful. I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.
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Res Ipsa wrote:I don't consider myself unique, special, or beautiful. I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.


That's a very unique and special take on human cognition, RI. I value you as a person. I value your opinion. No one is like you.

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Res Ipsa wrote:I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.

I suppose as I've aged, I've come to suspect that people think more alike than I did when I was younger. Maybe we'll meet somewhere in the middle.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:I don't consider myself unique, special, or beautiful. I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.

That's a very unique and special take on human cognition, RI. I value you as a person. I value your opinion. No one is like you.

- Doc

I don't think it is special or unique at all. I think it's right in line with what neuroscience tells us about how the brain functions.

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Res Ipsa wrote:I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.

I suppose as I've aged, I've come to suspect that people think more alike than I did when I was younger. Maybe we'll meet somewhere in the middle.

Could very well be. :smile:
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Some Schmo wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:I've just reached a point in my life where I've come to believe that the story my brain tells itself about how other people think and feel differs from how they actually think and feel.

I suppose as I've aged, I've come to suspect that people think more alike than I did when I was younger. Maybe we'll meet somewhere in the middle.


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Gunnar wrote:I have to agree with you, Jersey Girl. There is enough horrible stuff about Trump that no one needs to make up stuff about him to make him look bad. Doing so will only tend to undermine the real case against him.


Like I said in an earlier post, I'm working at trying to separate truth from fiction. The video footage you presented as evidence that Melania is abused, are each (prayer and arrival) edited for the express purpose of manipulating public opinion. We don't even know her and people are already making remarkable assumptions about her based on what the media is feeding us about her. Perhaps half the people I know in my own circle, don't even realize they're being fed manipulative anti-intellectual junk. They're effectively getting their news from the equivalent of the National Enquirer.

My question is how could you view video footage like that and not check it out? How could you view it and accept it without questioning it?

As to whatever case you believe there is against him, I'm unwilling to judge the new administration with just 6 days in office. Therefore, I don't see that there is a "real case against him" to undermine. Not yet. He'll construct his own or he won't. He's our President, I love this country and I hope he succeeds because if he doesn't, we don't either.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Gunnar wrote:I have to agree with you, Jersey Girl. There is enough horrible stuff about Trump that no one needs to make up stuff about him to make him look bad. Doing so will only tend to undermine the real case against him.


Like I said in an earlier post, I'm working at trying to separate truth from fiction. The video footage you presented as evidence that Melania is abused, are each (prayer and arrival) edited for the express purpose of manipulating public opinion. We don't even know her and people are already making remarkable assumptions about her based on what the media is feeding us about her. Perhaps half the people I know in my own circle, don't even realize they're being fed manipulative anti-intellectual junk. They're effectively getting their news from the equivalent of the National Enquirer.

My question is how could you view video footage like that and not check it out? How could you view it and accept it without questioning it?

As to whatever case you believe there is against him, I'm unwilling to judge the new administration with just 6 days in office. Therefore, I don't see that there is a "real case against him" to undermine. Not yet. He'll construct his own or he won't. He's our President, I love this country and I hope he succeeds because if he doesn't, we don't either.


I looked at the footage and didn't think they were sufficient to draw any meaningful conclusions, so I didn't bother to check them out. How were they edited?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
I looked at the footage and didn't think they were sufficient to draw any meaningful conclusions, so I didn't bother to check them out. How were they edited?


Would you mind picking up the exchanges between myself and Gunnar starting here?

viewtopic.php?p=1033518#p1033518

There aren't many to read. I spent too much time on this thread yesterday so I'd rather not repeat myself. I supplied links to the full footage of the events in question, both the so called abuse of Melania at the inauguration and the false assertions made about the Trump's arrival at the White House.
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Sorry, Jersey Girl. I thought I had read the whole thread but completely missed your post with links. Adding a few seconds of context makes all the difference. If adding that little bit of context can make that much difference, then trying to make sweeping judgments when we know only tiny snippets of their entire relationship seems kind of silly.

My first reaction to that first clip was that it looked like someone thinking "oh, this is a serious occasion, I should look serious."
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