Falling out between Dehlin and Kate Kelly?

[_Jersey Girl]

My objective is to protect future victims and fight silence of women in the exMo community.

How do you do that?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

My objective is to protect future victims and fight silence of women in the exMo community.

How do you do that?

By “F” ing over your own career HARD by linking your in real life website to this thread that demonstrates clearly you're incapable of reason and personal accountability. This is like the anti-LinkedIn move of the decade. This is the Darwin Awards of careericide.

TL;DR - Don't stick your dick in crazy.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

How do you do that?

By “F” ing over your own career HARD by linking your in real life website to this thread that demonstrates clearly you're incapable of reason and personal accountability. This is like the anti-LinkedIn move of the decade. This is the Darwin Awards of careericide.

TL;DR - Don't stick your dick in crazy.

- Doc

Yes, I saw that bit of self sabotage. Thanks for that bit of sage advice.

[_Jersey Girl]

I need to know something here. Is anyone else's codependency meter pinging when you read Rosebud's posts? If you don't want to answer that on the thread, feel free to shoot me a PM.

I have seen these same kinds of posts, innuendo---> I've moved on---> I don't want to talk about it---> go ahead and ask me questions, for literal years now.

What profit is there in this besides staying in the relationship and getting attention for it?

I'm not trying to be unkind. If I'm way off base and completely missing the forest for the trees here, somebody tell me.

[_cwald]

So tell me, cwald. In your estimation what is her motivation for mentioning this piece repeatedly over the period of years that she's posted here?

Because in my view, if you have the answer to that, you have it all.

So what is it?

Right. I think you are correct. I wish Rosebud would clear this up and just call a spade a spade.

[_Jersey Girl]

So tell me, cwald. In your estimation what is her motivation for mentioning this piece repeatedly over the period of years that she's posted here?

Because in my view, if you have the answer to that, you have it all.

So what is it?

Right. I think you are correct.

Uh, you didn't answer my question.

[Guest]

Uh, you didn't answer my question.

I know. Perhaps Rosebud will answer. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and would rather not speculate if she want's to talk about it. Give me a couple of days.

ETA...see Rosebud's recent thread.

[_RockSlider]

TL;DR - Don't stick your dick in crazy.

oops, too late.

[_Jersey Girl]

Uh, you didn't answer my question.

I know. Perhaps Rosebud will answer. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and would rather not speculate if she want's to talk about it. Give me a couple of days.

ETA...see Rosebud's recent thread.

I'm not asking for an answer from Rosebud. I'm asking what you (or anyone else who cares to say) think her motivations are for what she does.

It's okay if you'd rather not answer.

[_Mary]

Welcome the world of broken people.

Rosebud, love to you, I hope you find peace. My take for the little it is worth is that John is broken too, dealing with his own issues and faith transition. For me, his earlier podcasts ressonated because he was, like many of us, just as screwed up and dumbfounded by his own research into historical Mormonism.

John talked quite openly about his discomfort with being a role model or hero in a small Sunstone event at which he presented. He spoke about his marriage, about how he had developed feelings for another women, and though he didn't technically have an affair, as no sex was involved, he did have to work on his marriage. He was deeply sorry for his own shortcomings. I think the mistake you mke is to believe that he didn't have feeliings for you. He did, but he is married with wonderful kids and a wonderful wife. They, at the end of the day, hve to come first. I know he has worked on his marriage. He's been public about that. Margi seems like an incredible women. I suspect he knows he isn't worthy of her.

Anyway, like I say, we are all broken. Some of us are good at pretending, but there you go.

I haven't posted much on here because life is difficult at the moment. If people to respond with sarcasm or nastiness, please don't. Can we just all be nice to each other. Makes the world a nicer place to live in.

If this post doesn't help. I'll delete it. Let me know.