Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[_Jesse Pinkman]

What is with this shifting responsibility to others? An academic has signed an honor code agreement. He has authored pieces that contain evidence of plagiarism.

And it's the responsibility of posters on a message board to lead him to those instances of plagiarism?

Those who started this thread did that themselves, Jersey Girl. They took the time to reference all of this. At this point, I’m just throwing up my hands and saying, what the hell? They might as well keep going. At this point, much to their frustration, I’m sure, they are actually helping him out.

[Guest]

JP,

Are you seriously suggesting Mr. Peterson has no idea how, what, where, and when he's committed plagiarism? On top of that, are you seriously suggesting he doesn't have access to an online plagiarism checker, maybe, say, like a moron like myself could easily use, and, you know, check his own articles that have been published by Deseret News?

I think you're getting a kick out this! YOU ARE A TOTAL FRENEMY!

- Doc

Screw you, Doc. That’s not at all where I’m coming from. I was against this damned thread to begin with. Now it’s gone on for God knows how many pages. It’s obvious that you guys seem to have a hell of a lot of time on your hands going through and finding all of this stuff. And to what end? I find it absolutely bizarre the amount of threads that have been dedicated to DCP in one way or the other, and the intense hate toward him that has been expressed by some of the posters here over many years, even after the man stopped posting here.

I’m disgusted by the whole thing.

I think, however, that at this point, this thread can serve as a service to Dan because he actually has one point of reference where he can go through and fix the problem.

A lot of time? Girl, it took me all of two minutes to do this:

site:deseretnews.com peterson

Look at his bio page with 38 pages of articles, click on one, copy a paragraph, paste it into a free plagiarism checker, click on the resultant sources, and see that he literally lifted entire paragraphs or sentences, rephrased content, or clearly stole the idea without any sort of acknowledgement to the owner.

Screw ME?!?

No. Screw HIM! He is a thief, a liar, antagonistic, has done this for years with impugnity, and eats too much for his body type!

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Oh yeah. Nit pick spelling errors on a thread where an academic (professor) has been found plagiarizing for years.

Pathetic.

Nitpick.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Oh yeah. Nit pick spelling errors on a thread where an academic (professor) has been found plagiarizing for years.

Pathetic.

Nitpick.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

What is with this shifting responsibility to others? An academic has signed an honor code agreement. He has authored pieces that contain evidence of plagiarism.

And it's the responsibility of posters on a message board to lead him to those instances of plagiarism?

Those who started this thread did that themselves, Jersey Girl. They took the time to reference all of this. At this point, I’m just throwing up my hands and saying, what the hell? They might as well keep going. At this point, much to their frustration, I’m sure, they are actually helping him out.

Pretzel logic.

It's no one's responsibility to locate his errors but his own.

[Guest]

JP,

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism as required under the Honor Code DCP signed and agreed to when he became an employee of BYU.

If so when? If not, why?

Also, is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to the D-News?

If so when? If not, why?

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to Patheos?

If so when? If not, why?

[_Jersey Girl]

I was against this damned thread to begin with.

No kidding, right. That's as close to a tacit admission that you tried to thwart the thread from the beginning as one can get.

[Guest]

How is he supposed to know which articles that need to be fixed unless you at least reference them?

This may be a little radical as a suggestion, but maybe he could check all his Deseret News articles (or ask Deseret News to check them for him), check all his blog posts, check everything else he’s published. I mean, whose responsibility is it to check his work if not himself?

At this point, the damage is done.

The damage was done when he published plagiarism.

If, as Everybody Wang Chung indicated, there are several members of BYU faculty watching this site, then reporting what they choose to have happen is likely already underway. At this point, if Dan has one place where these references are mentioned, he at least has the opportunity to fix what is there.

Wrong. He’s got one place where some examples of his plagiarism have been found. If that’s all he corrects then he’s still being lazy. At this point Dan should be checking all his published stuff, for himself.

You’re continuing insistence that this thread is the problem, that it’s posters bear the responsibility for providing the material to Dan for him to correct it etc is utterly ridiculous. And obviously utterly ridiculous. I think you like the attention you’re getting and so are posting nonsense to try and draw fire. Any good friend of Peterson would have drawn his attention to this thread and not posted on it at all.

Friends, don’t let friends, plagiarise...

You’ve done him no favours on here.

[_Res Ipsa]

They’re not helping him out. They’re giving him rope.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

How is he supposed to know which articles that need to be fixed unless you at least reference them?

This may be a little radical as a suggestion, but maybe he could check all his Deseret News articles (or ask Deseret News to check them for him), check all his blog posts, check everything else he’s published. I mean, whose responsibility is it to check his work if not himself?

At this point, the damage is done.

The damage was done when he published plagiarism.

If, as Everybody Wang Chung indicated, there are several members of BYU faculty watching this site, then reporting what they choose to have happen is likely already underway. At this point, if Dan has one place where these references are mentioned, he at least has the opportunity to fix what is there.

Wrong. He’s got one place where some examples of his plagiarism have been found. If that’s all he corrects then he’s still being lazy. At this point Dan should be checking all his published stuff, for himself.

You’re continuing insistence that this thread is the problem, that it’s posters bear the responsibility for providing the material to Dan for him to correct it etc is utterly ridiculous. And obviously utterly ridiculous. I think you like the attention you’re getting and so are posting nonsense to try and draw fire. Any good friend of Peterson would have drawn his attention to this thread and not posted on it at all.

Friends, don’t let friends, plagiarise...

You’ve done him no favours on here.

Whatever. You know, I have tried to be respectful in my posts to you and you have consistently attacked me and said things about me that were nasty and unflattering; you have consistently tried to paint me in the worst light possible simply because I dared to give my opinion, which, god forbid, was different from yours, and defend a friend. You say that I haven’t done him any favors. All I did was alert him to what was being posted here and have tried to at least present his side.

You are once again putting words in my mouth saying that I indicated it was the responsibility of posters here to show where the plagiarism took place. I never said that. Hell, everyone on this thread has more than volunteered to do just that.

But hey, you know what? This whole thread has turned out to be just a lot of noise with no one sh****** or getting off the pot. For all the noise, no one has actually reported anything but have instead just been satisfied to post incidents here, so apparently, it’s all good.