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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I think the point I'm trying to poorly convey is the march itself is counterproductive, does nothing to advance the DNC's prospects politically, and probably works against their aims since it's a potpourri of nonsense. This kind of politicking is terribly conceived in 2018, and shows a lack of awareness and political savvy that concerns me. If I were the GOP I'd maintain our course, and keep doing what we did in 2016 to win a majority.

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And I don't think either of us has sufficient information on which to make those kinds of judgments. Arguably, one effect of last years marches was to lead more women to run for political office. http://time.com/5107499/record-number-o ... or-office/ That could be a sign that women are becoming more actively engaged in politics. I think its a good thing for people to be actively engaged in politics, so that looks like a good thing to me. And, circling back to where we started, since men control all three branches of government, it's men who are keeping the current inequality in selective service registration in place.

My point is also that, for every woman who took some kind of action to change women's circumstances, there was a long and loud line of men telling her she was mentally ill, narcissistic, divisive, promoting victimhood, or advocating feminist supremacy. Had women actually taken what those men said seriously, they'd still be treated like property and would not have the right to vote. If women want to have a march, I say all power to them. That's what we value in freedom of speech and assembly. When my wife told me she wanted to march, I didn't call her mentally ill or a narcissist. Knowing she hates to drive in downtown traffic, I offered to be shuttle service for her and anyone else that needed a ride. I do know that, since she marched last year, she's been more engaged in and energized about politics. I think the knee-jerk reaction to disparage and ridicule anything that smacks of feminism is silly and is not based on evidence or reason.
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Res Ipsa wrote:And I don't think either of us has sufficient information on which to make those kinds of judgments. Arguably, one effect of last years marches was to lead more women to run for political office. http://time.com/5107499/record-number-o ... or-office/ That could be a sign that women are becoming more actively engaged in politics. I think its a good thing for people to be actively engaged in politics, so that looks like a good thing to me. And, circling back to where we started, since men control all three branches of government, it's men who are keeping the current inequality in selective service registration in place.

My point is also that, for every woman who took some kind of action to change women's circumstances, there was a long and loud line of men telling her she was mentally ill, narcissistic, divisive, promoting victimhood, or advocating feminist supremacy. Had women actually taken what those men said seriously, they'd still be treated like property and would not have the right to vote. If women want to have a march, I say all power to them. That's what we value in freedom of speech and assembly. When my wife told me she wanted to march, I didn't call her mentally ill or a narcissist. Knowing she hates to drive in downtown traffic, I offered to be shuttle service for her and anyone else that needed a ride. I do know that, since she marched last year, she's been more engaged in and energized about politics. I think the knee-jerk reaction to disparage and ridicule anything that smacks of feminism is silly and is not based on evidence or reason.


Did you or your wife hold up a giant sign of her pussy? And then stick her face through the middle of it? And then march around with a dumb grin on her face?

If not. Congrats. She's probably not mentally ill.

I think you're deliberately skewing the political point I'm making because you're so in the bag with this weird ass nonsense protesting pink pussy cap bull crap you can't bring yourself to admit you've been supporting insanity that subordinates you at the expense of your manhood.

But, hey. You do you. Get to lickin' those latex boots at the crack of their whip.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Welp. I'm pretty sure his point was that women aren't demanding the right to register with selective service.

What did you think his point was?


That may be a fact. It's not a point. Again, what was the point and why do you think I dodged it?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Welp. I'm pretty sure his point was that women aren't demanding the right to register with selective service.

What did you think his point was?


That may be a fact. It's not a point. Again, what was the point and why do you think I dodged it?


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Jersey Girl wrote:Whole ton of women in the marches carrying anti-Trump signs. I haven't seen one yet that said "Hey Trump, when are you going to give women the right to register with selective service??"

Of course I haven't seen every sign that existed.


No, you haven't seen every sign. But what makes you think women should be concerned about the right to send the government a postcard? Any woman that wants to serve in the military can do so as long as she meets the qualifications, as can men. Is the issue sending postcards or actually serving in the military. Because, if it's the latter, then feminists have been working for opening the military up so that women can serve on a more equal basis with men. So why do you expect women to carry a sign that says, in substance, "Hey Trump, when are you going to pass a law that forces me to send the government a postcard." Isn't it perfectly reasonable to choose to carry signs that address something they feel is more important to their lives?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Whole ton of women in the marches carrying anti-Trump signs. I haven't seen one yet that said "Hey Trump, when are you going to give women the right to register with selective service??"

Of course I haven't seen every sign that existed.


No, you haven't seen every sign. But what makes you think women should be concerned about the right to send the government a postcard? Any woman that wants to serve in the military can do so as long as she meets the qualifications, as can men. Is the issue sending postcards or actually serving in the military. Because, if it's the latter, then feminists have been working for opening the military up so that women can serve on a more equal basis with men. So why do you expect women to carry a sign that says, in substance, "Hey Trump, when are you going to pass a law that forces me to send the government a postcard." Isn't it perfectly reasonable to choose to carry signs that address something they feel is more important to their lives?


That you reduce selective service registration to sending in a gov't post card (with the excuse that we haven't had a draft in 40 years) is completely pathetic.

You disgust me with that.
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Some 16 year old redditor is going to explain The Vagina Monologues to DocCam one day and he's going to flip.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Holy ____.


Holy crap yourself. Are you really telling me you don't understand what it is to have a point? OK. It works like this: "Fact," therefore "point." Doc didn't just say women aren't protesting being excluded from selective service for yuks. It was a fact he used to argue in support of a point. So, if you think I ducked the point, I'd think you'd be able to tell me what his point was and explain why you claimed I ducked it.

Or were you just taking a Jersey shot for yuks? :smile:
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Jersey Girl wrote:That some women don't have one foot in the real world?

Or am I missing the meaning of the photo?


In context of the thread, and the discussion, the point I'm making is those women at that march or protest or circle jerk (whatever one wants to call it) don't give a flying [deleted] about equality, are privileged to the point of absurdly complaining about their lot in life, and are so blithely oblivious to the state of mankind they view virtually half the population as tyrants in the making.

You know. It's so sad that so many men haven't had an encouraging word thrown their way for virtually their entire lives. They're opting out of higher education at crazy rates, they comprise over 84% of the homeless population, they make up something like 90% of workplace fatalities, their suicide rates are off the charts, and we keep getting fed that they're the problem, that feminism is equality, and that if you don't buy what those pussy-sign toting nutjobs are selling you're the enemy.

Give me a [deleted] break.

Again, I vote Democrat for a variety of reasons. However, I can plainly see they're telling men, especially young men, that they're patriarchal oppressors, denizens of rape culture, and that these feminists can't distinguish between a man's competence and his tyranny. It's just all so odd and bizarre when I see other adults, especially men, buy into this Salvador Dali painting of ideology.

I mean. I can see it plain as day. Click on this easy Google search of 'womens march 2018 signs' and tell me you see sober thinking, pragmatism, logic, a clear and coherent message (I'll call you a liar if you do):

https://www.google.com/search?q=womens+ ... 00&bih=769

What in the [deleted] is going on with people? I don't expect to change anyone's mind with my little rants on this obscure message, but [deleted], I'm certainly not going to watch lunatics here shoot off their mouths without letting them know they've gone off the reservation if they support this kind of thing. It's utterly depraved and bizarre.

- Doc
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Holy ____.


Holy crap yourself. Are you really telling me you don't understand what it is to have a point? OK. It works like this: "Fact," therefore "point." Doc didn't just say women aren't protesting being excluded from selective service for yuks. It was a fact he used to argue in support of a point. So, if you think I ducked the point, I'd think you'd be able to tell me what his point was and explain why you claimed I ducked it.

Or were you just taking a Jersey shot for yuks? :smile:


You're dodging reality that women as a whole, don't really want to be treated as equals to men.
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