A different view than:
Apologists=bad
Mormonism=bad
Mormons=brainwashed
A different view than:
Yes, I got that. I asked about that and it appears you didn't want to provide good reason why anyone should regard it as prophecy. In what way is it prophecy? I realize it's not a big deal to you, but you did present it as an example of God sending messages to us humans. How is anyone supposed to reasonably accept it as prophecy? If you have no good reason to accept it as such, that's fine. But it'd be kind of odd you'd present it as an example of prophecy if you have no faith that it can be explainable as an example of prophecy.
I think maybe we are not operating under the same assumption of what is meant by "prophecy." If you are looking for a specific prediction or magical trick, that isn't how prophecy usually works--especially in restorationism and restoration literature (yes, sometimes it's happened, but it's extremely rare). Prophecy just means prediction, and sometimes it's very vague like in this example. I accept it as prophecy because I believe that president Nelson received inspiration to conduct studies about whether a home-centered, church supported worship would work and how it would work. In this regard the church was prepared for the pandemic, and if conservatives continue to be crazy insane in the US, we will have a COVID-23, and a COVID-26 (I sincerely, genuinely, absolutely hope I am wrong on that).dastardly stem wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:43 amYes, I got that. I asked about that and it appears you didn't want to provide good reason why anyone should regard it as prophecy. In what way is it prophecy? I realize it's not a big deal to you, but you did present it as an example of God sending messages to us humans. How is anyone supposed to reasonably accept it as prophecy? If you have no good reason to accept it as such, that's fine. But it'd be kind of odd you'd present it as an example of prophecy if you have no faith that it can be explainable as an example of prophecy.
Not that I've seen. You certainly agree with all three.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Oh. You’d be pleasantly surprised to know there’s a variety of opinions about the three topics you posted, in addition to a lot of nuance.
- Doc
OK. Prophecy means prediction. What specifically was predicted? The pandemic? Or Mormons need to watch church on their computers?Sledge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:50 am
I think maybe we are not operating under the same assumption of what is meant by "prophecy." If you are looking for a specific prediction or magical trick, that isn't how prophecy usually works--especially in restorationism and restoration literature (yes, sometimes it's happened, but it's extremely rare). Prophecy just means prediction, and sometimes it's very vague like in this example. I accept it as prophecy because I believe that president Nelson received inspiration to conduct studies about whether a home-centered, church supported worship would work and how it would work. In this regard the church was prepared for the pandemic, and if conservatives continue to be crazy insane in the US, we will have a COVID-23, and a COVID-26 (I sincerely, genuinely, absolutely hope I am wrong on that).
https://www.deseret.com/2013/6/24/20521 ... in-armeniaElder Nelson has been involved in the relationship between the people of Armenia and the LDS Church since 1988, when he presented a check from the LDS Church to Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin to provide aid to victims of a devastating earthquake in Armenia, which was then still under Soviet control. Elder Nelson and LDS philanthropist Jon M. Huntsman were involved in ongoing efforts to help rebuild earthquake-torn areas of Armenia.
Notice that while Sledge responds to every message, he/she refuses to actually respond to the content of my comment (linked above), that "home-centered" represents an exhaustively surveyed and trialed business decision at least 7 years in the making. Sledge is here to troll and nothing more. Like MG. He'll resort to ad hominem or nit picking when pressed, but what you won't see is him do is engage on hard content.Sledge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:54 pmThe height? Are you often prone to hyperbole?Dr Moore wrote: [viewtopic.php?p=26093#p26093]
Associating it with a prophetic pandemic preview is the height of cherry picking and lazy learning.
My exceedingly high picking of fruits from trees matches the exceedingly low "god should just have made the pandemic disappear" lazy understanding of how god and prophecy works.