What is an anti-Mormon?

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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Jersey Girl wrote:Okay, I'll play. "anti-Mormon" is a disingenuous ad hom appeal to emotion that is used to gin up Mormons into believing that those who criticize their church are in fact criticizing them as a people and as individuals. It's designed to characterized and portray critics as hateful intolerant bigots.

Not that there aren't hateful bigots present in the critic community. But, to paint all persons who criticize the Church with the same broad brush is in fact bigotted.

See how that works?

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Smarty pants. Succintly stating the issue. Harrumph. :lol:
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Maksutov wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Okay, I'll play. "anti-Mormon" is a disingenuous ad hom appeal to emotion that is used to gin up Mormons into believing that those who criticize their church are in fact criticizing them as a people and as individuals. It's designed to characterized and portray critics as hateful intolerant bigots.

Not that there aren't hateful bigots present in the critic community. But, to paint all persons who criticize the Church with the same broad brush is in fact bigotted.

See how that works?

k'bye


Smarty pants. Succintly stating the issue. Harrumph. :lol:


That damn Jersey Girl does it again.
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Taxonomy is a great exercise so long as we remember the map is not the territory. I daresay old biological models of taxonomy underwent some "evolution" with the understanding of DNA. So some evidence is called for, natch.
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Maksutov wrote:Taxonomy is a great exercise so long as we remember the map is not the territory. I daresay old biological models of taxonomy underwent some "evolution" with the understanding of DNA. So some evidence is called for, natch.


Where did those Lamanites go?

Speaking of which, it now appears that my generation is no longer the "chosen one"
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Maksutov wrote:Taxonomy is a great exercise so long as we remember the map is not the territory. I daresay old biological models of taxonomy underwent some "evolution" with the understanding of DNA. So some evidence is called for, natch.


Nice analogy. :smile:
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Fence Sitter wrote:
Maksutov wrote:Taxonomy is a great exercise so long as we remember the map is not the territory. I daresay old biological models of taxonomy underwent some "evolution" with the understanding of DNA. So some evidence is called for, natch.


Where did those Lamanites go?


I'm guessing they're with Jersey's missing post.
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:
Where did those Lamanites go?


I'm guessing they're with Jersey's missing post.


Yep. Lost Mormonia. :wink:
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Shulem wrote:
Shulem wrote:Listen, baby -- you're advertising yourself as one who has faith & hope.

Niadna wrote:Care to show me the post in which I did any such thing?

Every. Single. One.

Niadna wrote:Image

Can. You. Read?

My avatar is one of the official mottos of the Multiple Myeloma Research foundation, complete with the ribbon color (burgundy) and has absolutely nothing to do with my religion. You can buy t-shirts, coffee mugs and dog sweaters with this motto screen-printed, painted on or knitted into it. If it makes you feel any better, I can switch my avatar to this:

Image

You can buy all sorts of stuff for that from here: https://www.choosehope.com/category/mul ... a-burgundy

....and other places. We can use the donations.

"Faith, Hope,and Love" are not exclusive to Mormonism, and are not always ABOUT Mormonism...and a sign with those words on it is NOT necessarily a claim of possession, OR a religious tract.

Hmnnn. Y'know, though, I rather like the 'chemo-brain' button. I DO have that t-shirt already. Perhaps I SHOULD change my avatar?
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Shulem wrote:
grindael wrote:But I doubt that will ever change, the Mormons have too much invested in the term "anti-Mormon".

You got it.

The Mormons play it to the hilt and wallow about in their pitiful self persecution and complain how everyone else (THE WHOLE WORLD) is critical of Mormonism to some degree.

It's the Mormons that are anti-world. They condemn the things of the world that everyone else finds just fine. Mormons are constantly pointing their fingers and accusing the whole world for what they do -- calling everyone sinners and so forth. They are a judgmental persecuting people that deserve every level of criticism.

Nasty rotten Mormons! (I'm glad they shot Joseph Smith -- he deserved what he got)

Shulem, are you serious?

(guys, is he serious?)

Remember...I'm new here and fresh from a forum in which people say that sort of thing and very much ARE serious.

So.

Is he serious?
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Re: What is an anti-Mormon?

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Niadna wrote:Perhaps I SHOULD change my avatar?

You should change your avatar. Does it generate a deceptive message about who you are and what you stand for? When a poster uses a picture of the Salt Lake temple as their avatar it is almost universally accepted that they are pro-LDS, especially when defending Mormonism. When a so-called evangelical poster uses a dove it just means more of the same.
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