1984 in 2018

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_Some Schmo
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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cen·sor

/ˈsensər/

noun

noun: censor; plural noun: censors

1. an official who examines material that is about to be released, such as books, movies, news, and art, and suppresses any parts that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.

verb

verb: censor; 3rd person present: censors; past tense: censored; past participle: censored; gerund or present participle: censoring

1. examine (a book, movie, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it.


Now that we know what the word "censor" means, continue.
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Water Dog wrote:At least one of you is willing to be honest about it, thanks! Now that we're being honest, the more interesting discussion to have is how far are you willing to go?

Do you mean to ask how far you’re willing to go to force some media networks to carry, for free, other people’s crap content produced for profit?

Did you have trouble typing ‘InfoWars’ into your browser, or something? How helpless are Alex Jones fans?
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canpakes wrote:
Water Dog wrote:At least one of you is willing to be honest about it, thanks! Now that we're being honest, the more interesting discussion to have is how far are you willing to go?

Do you mean to ask how far you’re willing to go to force some media networks to carry, for free, other people’s crap content produced for profit?

Did you have trouble typing ‘InfoWars’ into your browser, or something? How helpless are Alex Jones fans?


They can stay in their little corner and talk amongst themselves, but they want to be taken seriously and part of the mainstream. They don't like being on the margins of society and mocked by the "elites". I get that. It sucks for them. But life's not fair.
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DarkHelmet wrote:They can stay in their little corner and talk amongst themselves, but they want to be taken seriously and part of the mainstream. They don't like being on the margins of society and mocked by the "elites". I get that. It sucks for them. But life's not fair.

These children want to be spoon fed their pablum wherever they sit their lazy arses down, and expect everyone else to clean up their spit-up afterwards. Let the entitlement-minded whiny little infants roll around in their own slop while in their own rooms, as far as I’m concerned.
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canpakes wrote:Do you mean to ask how far you’re willing to go to force some media networks to carry, for free, other people’s crap content produced for profit?

Did you have trouble typing ‘InfoWars’ into your browser, or something? How helpless are Alex Jones fans?

Come on now, let's not play these games. I think we all know the score at this point, so how about we quit damned around and get right to it?
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Water Dog wrote:Come on now, let's not play these games. I think we all know the score at this point, so how about we quit damned around and get right to it?


OK. You apparently want only Trump-run media that is forced to play Alex Jones. There, done.
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Well. I think the problem with free speech is that it works. And that doesn't work for a lot of people. The key to advancing one's agenda is to shut down the opposition's ability to broadcast their ideas on any given issue.

Would I shut down Trump if I could? As much as it pains me to read his tweets or hear him speak I wouldn't. Ever. And believe you me it's distressing to know this guy is our President.

But here's the rub. I voted for Hillary Clinton and half of what she would say irked the ever living crap out of me. So I understand how the Right felt when Obama and Hillary Clinton would get their platform to say what they wanted to say.

So, back to OP's point. I think unless Facebook becomes a utility it has every right to run its business how it wants, and it's up to us to use it or not. Same with bakers. Same with tailors. Whatever. We may not like how people think, speak, and conduct business, but I find it far more problematic to force people to do something they don't want to do. That's authoritariansim and that's un-American.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well. I think the problem with free speech is that it works. And that doesn't work for a lot of people. The key to advancing one's agenda is to shut down the opposition's ability to broadcast their ideas on any given issue.


Or to drown them out with a deluge of advertising (Citizens United).
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well. I think the problem with free speech is that it works. And that doesn't work for a lot of people. The key to advancing one's agenda is to shut down the opposition's ability to broadcast their ideas on any given issue.


Or to drown them out with a deluge of advertising (Citizens United).


One man dollar one vote. Money talks, so why shouldn't it vote?

That is (alas!) now the American Way, and the habit is spreading to other countries.
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