Trump + Putin + Helsinki Press Conference = More Hysteria

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Kishkumen wrote:No, you are not ashamed. It has nothing to do with intimidation. To call it intimidation is to mistake morality for violence.

Are you channeling John Gee's FAIR talk? Can take the man out of the church, but not the church out of the man, it seems. Not all violence is physical. Most isn't, in fact, and arguably the worst kinds. You know that.
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Water Dog wrote:Are you channeling John Gee's FAIR talk? Can take the man out of the church, but not the church out of the man, it seems. Not all violence is physical. Most isn't, in fact, and arguably the worst kinds. You know that.


Again, you mistake morality for violence. Morality is about more than sex. You know that. Try to remember.
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Chap wrote: You did all that to our country, and to the world, and I hope you will take responsibility for the consequences."


I think you have made your opinion/position clear.
I think (given my replies to you on this in the thread already) I have made my opinion/position clear.

We need not agree. Agreement is less important than the clarity of positions, and I think we have both made our opinions/positions clear at this point.

I can't see any value in going over it again - So I won't.
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Kishkumen wrote:Morality is about more than sex.

You mean like literalist interpretations of the Book of Mormon? :lol: Again, John Gee agrees with you. As does Stormy Daniels and her CNN handlers.
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Ceeboo wrote:Right, she said "half" of the Trump supporters are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and deplorable.

Ceeboo, it that percentage high or low? If we went solely by those at his rallies, Hillary's estimate would seem to be an understatement. Are you concerned about the word deplorable because that one is more of a judgment call? Deplorable cannot be measured like the others.
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Water Dog wrote:You mean like literalist interpretations of the Book of Mormon? :lol: Again, John Gee agrees with you. As does Stormy Daniels and her CNN handlers.


Hey, whatever blows your dress up. If you want it to be about literal interpretations of the Book of Mormon and Stormy Daniels' payday, I'm not going to stop you. That's for sure.
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moksha wrote:
Ceeboo wrote:Right, she said "half" of the Trump supporters are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and deplorable.

Ceeboo, it that percentage high or low?

in my opinion, your question speaks volumes all by itself.

If we went solely by those at his rallies, Hillary's estimate would seem to be an understatement.

Yeah - You're probably right - The total number of American citizens that are deplorable racists, sexists, homophobics or Islamophobics isn't merely the 30 plus million she suggests, it's probably closer to 55 million citizens - like you suggest!

Yeah - It is an unbridgeable divide to be sure!
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Talking about hysteria....

Weird how these are nearly the only kinds of people I see at Trump rallied anymore.

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Kevin Graham wrote:Talking about hysteria....

Weird how these are nearly the only kinds of people I see at Trump rallied anymore.

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Man, I feel sorry for the little girl in the top left picture. She has no idea she's being abused in that situation. She's got a look on her face that says, My daddy must be acting like a lunatic for a reason. I wonder what it is.
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It is impossible to determine the exact number of racists from either party. All we can do is operate from anecdote, and so all I can tell you is that virtually every Trump supporter I know here in metro Atlanta doesn't wear their racism on their sleeves. Some do, but others require a little finessing to get them to admit their true concerns are about the racial culture changes caused by things that are usually related to people of color (i.e. immigration, acceptance of gangster rap, acceptance of Islam, etc.)

What makes it easy to believe their racism is the #1 thing that drives them to support Trump is the fact that all the other reasons don't hold water anymore. Maybe they did two years ago when they could at least argue he would be a good President in terms of draining the swamp, bringing integrity to the office, representing a pleasant change as a non-politician, building bridges with our adversaries, doing what is best for America at all costs, driving down the debt, etc.

Because anyone with a brain can see none of this is true after his first 18 months in office. The only force powerful enough to cause the mental faculties to ignore all of this is the confirmation bias driven by racism. That's the one thing we all knew about him and what he is truly sticking to his guns about.

So, maybe you weren't racist in 2016 when you voted for him, but if you're still supporting him to this day like the idiots in these crowds... you probably are.
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