Kavanaugh and Perjury

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From my (amateurish) understanding of the brain, which is worth about as much as a fart in the wind, but I like hearing myself type….

Her being able to recount in excruciating detail the event itself, but not the exact where/when/etc. -- this is a common element of how traumatic events are processed and retained. The brain tends to focus on the event itself so-much-so that it is at the expense of other information. This is why PTSD can be so pervasive, as the event(s) that is causing the trauma is captured by the brain in hyper-detail.

Now, that’s not to say that those details can’t be wrong. It’s possible that she attributed the wrong identity to her assailants (it’s certainly happened before in such cases), or confused some other details.

However, based solely on the details she has shared, and the things she can’t recall… it’s reasonable to count it as evidence that she went through trauma, as much as evidence against (if not more-so).
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Doctor Steuss wrote:From my (amateurish) understanding of the brain, which is worth about as much as a fart in the wind, but I like hearing myself type….

Her being able to recount in excruciating detail the event itself, but not the exact where/when/etc. -- this is a common element of how traumatic events are processed and retained. The brain tends to focus on the event itself so-much-so that it is at the expense of other information. This is why PTSD can be so pervasive, as the event(s) that is causing the trauma is captured by the brain in hyper-detail.

Now, that’s not to say that those details can’t be wrong. It’s possible that she attributed the wrong identity to her assailants (it’s certainly happened before in such cases), or confused some other details.

However, based solely on the details she has shared, and the things she can’t recall… it’s reasonable to count it as evidence that she went through trauma, as much as evidence against (if not more-so).


Ironically, the more one recalls a memory, the less accurate the memory becomes. Each recollection doesn't just read the memory -- it rewrites it. So, it would not be surprising at all if she remembered some details wrong or was not confident of some specific details. That's why I think investigating to find out if she told anyone at or near the time would be helpful.
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Drag a hundred dollars through a trailer park and there’s no telling what you’ll find. amirite?

C'mon. Where is the outrage that a mere accusation can destroy a person's reputation? Does the rule of law no longer apply here at MDB?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Drag a hundred dollars through a trailer park and there’s no telling what you’ll find. amirite?

C'mon. Where is the outrage that a mere accusation can destroy a person's reputation? Does the rule of law no longer apply here at MormonDiscussions.com?

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You mean the rule that says you should have some evidence before you accuse them of lying? Or that you shoukdn’t refer to someone as trailer trash without some evidence?
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Hey, Doc. What’s your opinion of this guy trying to assassinate the character of a sitting president based on a wackaloon conspiracy theory? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... oster.html Or is the reputation thing only an issue when it’s a woman who accuses a man?
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Well. For the record. If the Repubs had pulled the same trick with Merrick Garland, Obama's nomination, I'd be horrified. This is trash, and you know it is.

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Res Ipsa wrote:Hey, Doc. What’s your opinion of this guy trying to assassinate the character of a sitting president based on a wackaloon conspiracy theory? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... oster.html Or is the reputation thing only an issue when it’s a woman who accuses a man?


I'd love to read the article, but I can't see past the firewall.

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This article is a pretty good summary. https://www.google.com/amp/s/splinterne ... 855594/amp
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well. For the record. If the Repubs had pulled the same trick with Merrick Garland, Obama's nomination, I'd be horrified. This is trash, and you know it is.

- Doc


What evidence should lead me to think “this is trash?”
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well. For the record. If the Repubs had pulled the same trick with Merrick Garland, Obama's nomination, I'd be horrified. This is trash, and you know it is.

- Doc


What evidence should lead me to think “this is trash?”


For the same reasons this is trash:

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Or do we not follow any sort of factual precedent any more and just believe whatever someone says as long as it suits their motivation?

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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