Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Some Schmo wrote:
Gunnar wrote:I have to give you that much. That all were intoxicated at the time does not speak well for either accusers or accused.

Why Gunnar? Does consuming alcohol invalidate a person's credibility? Does it invalidate the claimed trauma of an attempted rape?


Perhaps not, but as you agreed:
Alcohol can mess with a person's memory of the details of an experience. . .


And this is what I really meant, and it can magnify the perceived trauma of what happened, I think. It has even been known to induce hallucinations. Understand, though, that I still think that at least Dr. Ford's credibility is more credible than Kavanaugh's denial.

ETA: The other variable here is the amount of alcohol consumed. We don't know how drunk she was.

Agreed. My impression, so far, is that she was probably not nearly as incapacitated as her assaulters. That's why she was able to escape to the bathroom and lock herself in.
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Gunnar wrote:Understand, though, that I still think that at least Dr. Ford's credibility is more credible than Kavanaugh's denial.

Maybe i am confused about the definition of credibility, so, for you, what made Ford more believable than Kavanaugh?
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Gunnar wrote:
ajax18 wrote:especially when it appears they were all under the influence at the time


I have to give you that much. That all were intoxicated at the time does not speak well for either accusers or accused.


Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:That's victim blaming. Why do you hate women?

- Doc


I'm not victim blaming. Merely acknowledging that being under the influence of alcohol can impair the accuracy of one's recollections. That she might have been urged or tricked into drinking something before the assault does not make her any less an innocent victim.
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subgenius wrote:
Gunnar wrote:Understand, though, that I still think that at least Dr. Ford's credibility is more credible than Kavanaugh's denial.

Maybe i am confused about the definition of credibility, so, for you, what made Ford more believable than Kavanaugh?

Already frequently and exhaustively explained. Please try to keep up! I'm not going to explain it to you again.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Wouldn't our world be better without alcohol?


Not really, unless you are exclusively refering to alcoholic beverages. Like you, I can happily do without them for the rest of my life. Alcohol does have a lot of very valuable uses, though.
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Gunnar wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:Wouldn't our world be better without alcohol?

Not really, unless you are exclusively refering to alcoholic beverages. Like you, I can happily do without them for the rest of my life. Alcohol does have a lot of very valuable uses, though.

Normally I would never trust a lifetime teetotaler, but in your case, I guess I can make an exception.

Can you imagine dentistry in the early 1800's without whisky? There's a world without alcohol that would not be better.
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I guess most illegal immigrants would never get caught if there were no DUI laws. Latinos seem to love there cerveza even though they lack the enzyme needed to hold their liquor.
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ajax18 wrote:I guess most illegal immigrants would never get caught if there were no DUI laws. Latinos seem to love there cerveza even though they lack the enzyme needed to hold their liquor.
Seriously, what the actual “F” is wrong with you?
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Xenophon wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I guess most illegal immigrants would never get caught if there were no DUI laws. Latinos seem to love there cerveza even though they lack the enzyme needed to hold their liquor.
Seriously, what the actual “F” is wrong with you?

Oh man. You just made my day.

ajax got Xen to say “F”.

I know man. I know.
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