Ten poorest states are Red States.

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Re: Ten poorest states are Red States.

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aussieguy55 wrote:The most evangelical states are red states. When you are poor you need God? Praise the Lord and pass the plate


Well, I think you're missing my point that a lot of those states you listed have major ports and huge coastlines, or are fantastic tourist destinations. Our rivers don't seem to connect to transoceanic shipping lanes, so when you're talking about red states being poor because of Jesus, you're forgetting it's a little more complicated than just religion. After all, Saudi Arabia is balls deep in oil money.

Here's California's US Presidential voting history:

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Based off your implied assertion California should've been mired in poverty, but for some reason it seemed to *snap* do just fine. I can't imagine why...

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
aussieguy55 wrote:10 Wealthiest states

Maryland $78945 coastline
Alaska $76440 coastline
New Jersey $76126 coastline
Massachusetts $75297 coastline
Hawaii $74511 coastline
Connecticut $73443 coastline
New Hampshire $70936 coastline
Virginia $68114 coastline
California $67739 coastline
Washington.$67106 coastline

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Hrm. I can't quite put my finger on why these states have a lot of commerce...

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Louisiana and Mississippi are two of the poorest states in the country by most measures. They have coastlines. What poor states mostly have in common is that they used to have the economic model of Hati until the civil war devastated them. After the civil war, they reconstituted into a still largely agrarian economy with the same severe labor oppression and wealth inequality that typified the plantation economy. After the reconstruction, they became corrupt 1 party state by and for the connected elite, which had a web of effects including poor public education systems, minimal unionization, etc. The effects of this reach into the present.
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Thanks, EA, for the history lesson. I didn't know MS and LA had coastlines!

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Thanks, EAllusion, for the history lesson. I didn't know MS and LA had coastlines!

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Your explanation for wealth distribution in the US being it's all about the coastlines didn't seem correct. That states that are poor as hell also have coastlines seems relevant. Also, how big is New Hampshire's coast, exactly? Is that the driver of their high median income? Minnesota is usually near the top depending on which measure you adopt. Is that because of all the lakes?
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The largest percentage of evangelicals also reside in those states."the highest number of Evangelical Protestants are found in Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Mississipi. "

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Re: Ten poorest states are Red States.

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EAllusion wrote:
Louisiana and Mississippi are two of the poorest states in the country by most measures. They have coastlines. What poor states mostly have in common is that they used to have the economic model of Hati until the civil war devastated them. After the civil war, they reconstituted into a still largely agrarian economy with the same severe labor oppression and wealth inequality that typified the plantation economy. After the reconstruction, they became corrupt 1 party state by and for the connected elite, which had a web of effects including poor public education systems, minimal unionization, etc. The effects of this reach into the present.

hey there brainiac, perhaps it is worth noting that wealth inequality is greatest among and has been rapidly increasing since 1975, among the Blue States. Also, LA and MS did not have the economic model of Hati(?)...agrarian based economy is still their system as well as among many red states...except, as noted in previous post, energy extraction is significant in the states...a "model" that many blue states are adopting in order to diversify their portfolio; likewise many red states are adopting tech and knowledge based economic aspects. Your idea that growing corn is an "economic model" is juvenile...or worse, a coffee-shop hipster doofus.
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subgenius wrote:hey there brainiac, perhaps it is worth noting that wealth inequality is greatest among and has been rapidly increasing since 1975, among the Blue States.


Interesting fact that is relevant to the development of Southern political systems in the late 1800's.

Also, LA and MS did not have the economic model of Hati(?)
They didn't have slave-labor agricultural camps?

Your idea that growing corn is an "economic model" is juvenile...or worse, a coffee-shop hipster doofus.


More famous subgenius reading comprehension I see.
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subgenius wrote:Your idea that growing corn is an "economic model" is juvenile...or worse, a coffee-shop hipster doofus.

Being as that this was never asserted by the poster, it would appear that you are once again exhibiting your usual reading comprehension difficulties.
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aussieguy55 wrote:The largest percentage of evangelicals also reside in those states."the highest number of Evangelical Protestants are found in Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Mississipi. "

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/us- ... ation.html


So, Wahhabi Islam then is the key in order for humanity to secure wealth? Because you're framing wealth, or the lack of it, as being dependent on religious identity. Is that what you're getting at?

Also, can you tell me how to quantify happiness?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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