EAllusion wrote:I don't know why you just don't assert that Jeff Sessions was a collaborator with a secret alien plot to invade Earth and be done with it.
Haha, how's that? You're the one promoting a 9/11 truth conspiracy, but I'm the tin foil? ROFL, I'm the one rejecting the crazy conspiracy! Hahah. Thanks for the laugh. I'll tell you what. I'll make a pledge right now. If you, or anyone here, can produce a single shred of hard evidence proving that Trump is an agent of the Russian government, I will vote for whoever the democrat candidate is in 2020. I'll give you my senate vote too. I think Cornyn is up in 20.
Virtually every post you make is another red herring and straw man. Who said Trump is an agent for Russia? It is like you're too stupid to even pay attention to what the actual arguments are. You really need to get your head our of these Right Wing Twitter feeds.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why the probe never should have happened even though it continues to churn out one indictment after the next. I thought you believed in enforcing the law?
This whole thing started because the DNC, Clinton campaign and the mainstream media were caught colluding to take the nomination away from Sanders. No one focuses on that because of Russia hysteria. However, it's been clearly shown that the hack was impossible and that the information was leaked instead. Assange intimated loudly that it came from Seth Rich in part in an interview with a European television station. But Trump is a clown and so let's waste everyone's time gathering proof that he is a clown and maybe show how he isn't worth as much as he claims. Meanwhile wages continue to stagnate and military budgets soar for wars no one wants. Looks like the donor class, who contributes heavily to both sides, wins on this one. The 1% is the enemy and their lackeys in Congress. How about we tackle real issues?
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
Exiled wrote:This whole thing started because the DNC, Clinton campaign and the mainstream media were caught colluding to take the nomination away from Sanders. No one focuses on that because of Russia hysteria. However, it's been clearly shown that the hack was impossible and that the information was leaked instead. Assange intimated loudly that it came from Seth Rich in part in an interview with a European television station. But Trump is a clown and so let's waste everyone's time gathering proof that he is a clown and maybe show how he isn't worth as much as he claims. Meanwhile wages continue to stagnate and military budgets soar for wars no one wants. Looks like the donor class, who contributes heavily to both sides, wins on this one. The 1% is the enemy and their lackeys in Congress. How about we tackle real issues?
No, that's not how this whole thing started. Obama warned of Russian cyber attacks well before, and the FBI was already investigating Papadopoulos. Trump's public declaration on national television urging Russia to hack our elected officials emails was also a huge driver.
I wanted Bernie to win too, but he didn't have the votes to beat Clinton, let alone Trump. He needed more support from minorities, who saw him as just another rich white guy. Thems the facts. Had Bernie won, he would have lost both the electoral and majority votes.
None of this had anything to do with DNC or Clinton.
Now back to Russiagate. In the latest chapter the Democrats retake the house and vow to use their subpoena power to expose Trump as the Russian tool they dream he is. He spoke to Putin in Helsinki and isn't as keen on provoking another cold war like the Democrats want, so he must be stopped. Meanwhile, Donald, there's no collusion Trump fires his AG and impliedly threatens to expose the Democrats by declassifying the documents they were slow walking to the former Repo controlled house committee.
What will the declassified docs show? Is Trump's clown suit really made in Russia? How big is Trump really? Stormy may reveal everything at the local Scores. Stay tuned .........
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
Exiled wrote:Now back to Russiagate. In the latest chapter the Democrats retake the house and vow to use their subpoena power to expose Trump as the Russian tool they dream he is. He spoke to Putin in Helsinki and isn't as keen on provoking another cold war like the Democrats want, so he must be stopped. Meanwhile, Donald, there's no collusion Trump fires his AG and impliedly threatens to expose the Democrats by declassifying the documents they were slow walking to the former Repo controlled house committee.
What will the declassified docs show? Is Trump's clown suit really made in Russia? How big is Trump really? Stormy may reveal everything at the local Scores. Stay tuned .........
You don't seem to have a grasp of the issue. Trump spent a lot of time in Russia prior to getting in politics and that the KGB has compromising information on him is almost a certainty. That presents a risk to our national security.
And I cannot believe you just implied that Trump was in the Right to take Putin's side, for the sake of avoiding another cold war. WTF? Obama had the balls to acknowledge the Russians have been waging a cyber war with us and he threatened them with sanctions. Trump flat out denies any war exists and says American intelligence agencies are all wrong because. And you're giving him a pass because you still think everything is about Hillary and the DNC?
Mueller and the facts about Russia are going to sorely disappoint and embarass Democrats....Mueller's office has hinted at as much....
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
subgenius wrote:Mueller and the facts about Russia are going to sorely disappoint...
I sure hope so. I'd rather the investigation turn up nothing than turn up collusion, money laundering, blackmailing, and espionage.
Please, god, let there be nothing.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Exiled wrote:Now back to Russiagate. In the latest chapter the Democrats retake the house and vow to use their subpoena power to expose Trump as the Russian tool they dream he is. He spoke to Putin in Helsinki and isn't as keen on provoking another cold war like the Democrats want, so he must be stopped. Meanwhile, Donald, there's no collusion Trump fires his AG and impliedly threatens to expose the Democrats by declassifying the documents they were slow walking to the former Repo controlled house committee.
What will the declassified docs show? Is Trump's clown suit really made in Russia? How big is Trump really? Stormy may reveal everything at the local Scores. Stay tuned .........
You don't seem to have a grasp of the issue. Trump spent a lot of time in Russia prior to getting in politics and that the KGB has compromising information on him is almost a certainty. That presents a risk to our national security.
And I cannot believe you just implied that Trump was in the Right to take Putin's side, for the sake of avoiding another cold war. WTF? Obama had the balls to acknowledge the Russians have been waging a cyber war with us and he threatened them with sanctions. Trump flat out denies any war exists and says American intelligence agencies are all wrong because. And you're giving him a pass because you still think everything is about Hillary and the DNC?
He simply spoke to Putin and it isn't a bad thing to speak to one's enemies. If there is anything more to that, then let's see it. Having dinner in Moscow with Russian government officials is not a crime and neither is selling them 20% of our uranium. However, if there is more to it other than being reluctant to start another cold war, then I am all ears. Meanwhile Trump is still continuing with the sanctions and is about to increase them. As for election interference, it seems to be more of a function of the electoral college than with Russian influence. You keep saying that Clinton won the popular vote, which is true. So, your beef really should be with the electoral college? I don't like Trump but let's engage him on the paycheck and expense issues that affect us all. The ACA has cause skyrocketing premiums for too many and should be changed. Maybe a public option would give the health insurance industry needed competition where one or two companies dominate each state. Also, monopolies have caused wages to stagnate. These and more economic issues as well as ending endless war is what the people want. The blue wave will fizzle if the Democrats focus too much attention on Russia.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
This is like the fourth or fifth time you've misrepresented reality. It isn't that he "simply spoke to Putin." That isn't the issue. He was told by our intelligence agencies for months that Putin directed the cyber attacks for the purposes of crippling our election process. This is a cyber war, and he did it to help Trump get elected. That's just a fact. Trump knew this for a long time and his only evidence to the contrary was.... drum roll.... Putin said he didn't do it!
So Trump takes the stage and before the entire world basically says our intelligence agencies are incompetent (during the time he was pushing the deep state "the FBI is biased against me" BS) and Putin is a swell guy who would never do something like this! You just don't get more treasonous than that. Right Wingers immediately went into confirmation bias mode. The same folks who called Obama a traitor for simply saying things like, America has made some mistakes on foreign policy.
And did you just say we sold Putin 20% of our Uranium?
And the last time I checked, those Trump sanctions on Russia were never implemented.
The ACA doesn't exist. We're in Trumpcare territory now. He has hamstringed the ACA so many times it is dishonest to even call it that anymore since it has never been allowed to operate as intended. Increased premiums is what happens when Republicans in Congress do everything they can to defund the ACA and make sure there are fewer providers and less competition. That's on them, not Obama.
subgenius wrote:Mueller and the facts about Russia are going to sorely disappoint and embarass Democrats....Mueller's office has hinted at as much....
Oh, you're under the delusion that Democrats have already taken for granted certain things. What Mueller's probe has produced already is more than enough to embarrass the Right for decades to come.