What's Next?

[_moksha]

The graffiti is meaningless. It is the conservative militias, survivalists, and foil hat wearers that have stockpiles of armaments, pickups, and Trump buttons.

[_subgenius]

The Right wants tighter voting controls and verification procedures in place, to prevent 'fraud' that has never actually been a problem. When those new procedures increase the time that it takes to count votes in races where Democrats end up in the lead, then the Right claims that this is the result of 'fraud'.

Is this your explanation for Broward County Florida's timeline for counting votes?

[_canpakes]

The Right wants tighter voting controls and verification procedures in place, to prevent 'fraud' that has never actually been a problem. When those new procedures increase the time that it takes to count votes in races where Democrats end up in the lead, then the Right claims that this is the result of 'fraud'.

Is this your explanation for Broward County Florida's timeline for counting votes?

Can’t follow your own posts? You suddenly find yourself in Florida after this accusation for Arizona was dismantled?

Arizona Democrats suddenly find just enough votes

Good luck with that one.

[_subgenius]

...When those new procedures increase the time that it takes to count votes in races where Democrats end up in the lead, then the Right claims that this is the result of 'fraud'.

Is this your explanation for Broward County Florida's timeline for counting votes?

[Guest]

...When those new procedures increase the time that it takes to count votes in races where Democrats end up in the lead, then the Right claims that this is the result of 'fraud'.

Is this your explanation for Broward County Florida's timeline for counting votes?

He posted specifically in response to Brackite's post about Arizona. Specifically.

[_Kevin Graham]

i noticed your list makes no mention of:
Antifa threatens conservative's home and family
Broward Election official caught , again
Senator Feinstein exploits victims in orchestrated lie
Armed Militant group parades for GA Democratic Governor candidate
Arizona Democrats suddenly find just enough votes
Democrat party officials and celebrity supporters openly call for violence
Liberals hysterical over nothing actually happening
California can't shelter fire evacuees but claim there is space for illegal immigrants

but mean tweets..OMG OMG OMG

Antifa never threatened anyone's home or family. Tucker Carlson's lies don't mean anything.
Broward election official wasn't "caught" doing anything "again." Rick Scott's lies don't mean anything.
Four black guys peacefully exercising their 2nd amendment right doesn't make them "militant." But thanks for the racism.
Arizona didn't just "suddenly find" enough votes. You're just regurgitating lies again.
Democrat party officials don't openly call for violence. You probably just made that up.
Your last remark is so stupid we'll just chalk it up to another substupidism.

[_honorentheos]

The graffiti is meaningless. It is the conservative militias, survivalists, and foil hat wearers that have stockpiles of armaments, pickups, and Trump buttons.

Eric Hofer's The True Believer is one of the most accessible yet insightful books I've read on the dynamics that fuel mass movements from the top as well as those who get caught up in them near the bottom. One of the central premises is that people who join or fuel such movements do so out of a sense of disenfranchisement from stable, mainstream society. They feel they have more to gain than lose if things were to get shaken up.

There are always going to be disenfranchised people in society and across the ideological spectrum. What is scariest about our current times is how openly this is getting expressed - again from both sides - in ways that take on the traits of a contagion. Combine this sense that we in the US are somehow not doing so great and could be doing much better with the historical amnesia that seems to afflict younger generations who place a lower value on liberal democracy if a different system would get people doing things the "right way" and one should be concerned. One of the more vocal elements during the 2016 election was the group of people more interested in seeing the government rattled and restructured such that there was a sincere element willing to vote for Trump when Sanders failed to win the Democrat nomination because Clinton represented the establishment. While they clearly did not make up a majority of voters, their volume on social media and influence on the election results can't be denied.

I'd argue that the call to revolution and militia men who fear government and see conspiracies everywhere they look are of a type and have far more in common where it matters than they have in common with the majority of stable society. Ideological bent is much less meaningful than the underlying sense that the world needs a good shake, and it needs to resettle in a way that matches their superior knowledge of how things should be. We shouldn't ignore the fact they are meaningfully the same where it matters because they have very different views of how it should resettle after their revolution/civil war/isolationist agenda gets implemented.

[_subgenius]

...When those new procedures increase the time that it takes to count votes in races where Democrats end up in the lead, then the Right claims that this is the result of 'fraud'.

Is this your explanation for Broward County Florida's timeline for counting votes?

He posted specifically in response to Brackite's post about Arizona. Specifically.

Yeah, duh...but i was asking if that same explanation is applicable to Broward county...its not difficult to answer and clearly Canpakes's response is generic and not "specific" to AZ....but just in case, ergo my question.

[_honorentheos]

He posted specifically in response to Brackite's post about Arizona. Specifically.

Yeah, duh...but i was asking if that same explanation is applicable to Broward county...its not difficult to answer and clearly Canpakes's response is generic and not "specific" to AZ....but just in case, ergo my question.

You made a poorly informed comment about voting fraud in Arizona. Brackite responded to it with information that explained what was really going on. Canpakes made a comment about how the scrutiny of each mail-in drop off vote is directly tied to conservative concerns about voter fraud which slows the process down, which in turn is being used to falsely claim fraud is involved.

Your comment was dumb because it didn't actually engage with the above while also being a clumsy attempt at redirection. And you posted it twice.

[_subgenius]

You made a poorly informed comment about voting fraud in Arizona. Brackite responded to it with information that explained what was really going on. Canpakes made a comment about how the scrutiny of each mail-in drop off vote is directly tied to conservative concerns about voter fraud which slows the process down, which in turn is being used to falsely claim fraud is involved.

Your comment was dumb because it didn't actually engage with the above while also being a clumsy attempt at redirection. And you posted it twice.

But here is the rub...Brackite provided an ambiguous explanation, not a factual explanation and certainly not one that concluded with Canpakes's assertion.
Simply posting that "these processes take a little bit of time" and "cartridges are ... securely transported to a central location" does not provide any discernible timeline nor does it conclude with "yeah, that takes a lot longer because Republicans".
So save your claims for dumb for those of you who read Brackite's post and think "yeah, that makes sense, the count is taking longer because it takes longer to count".