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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Why pension funds may be driving the stock market’s post-Christmas bounce
Corporate pension funds needed to shift $64 billion of funds into stocks as of Dec. 20: Wells Fargo
Beleaguered investors may want to thank pension funds for the stock market’s biggest daily jump in nine years on Wednesday, which helped set the stage for Wall Street’s first weekly gain in an otherwise gloomy December.
Strategists at Wells Fargo said that the market’s last-gasp rally this week may have been driven by buying from pension funds who needed to rebalance their portfolios towards stocks and out of bonds in to keep asset allocations in line.
As of Dec. 20, they estimated defined-benefit pension plans for U.S. corporations needed to shift around $64 billion of funds into stocks before the end of the year.
“There’s no question this is a historically large amount. We’ve been crunching numbers on pension quarter-end flows for a good part of seven years. This is frankly the largest rebalancing amount we’ve seen,” Boris Rjavinski, senior strategist at Wells Fargo Securities, told MarketWatch (see table below).
Defined-benefit pension funds were in the opposite spot back in January when they were sitting on fat gains from the stock market, which repeatedly notched fresh highs, as bonds struggled to keep up. Yet the last two months have seen a reversal of their positions, with pension plans now needing to top up their investments in equities after bonds outperformed in a down year for both asset classes.
The market’s post-Christmas climb appeared to come from nowhere in holiday-thinned trading, leading some to point the finger at pension funds who need to tweak their portfolios before the end of every month and every quarter. Pension funds need periodic readjustment as outperformance or underperformance in one corner of the pension fund’s assets can put its allocation out-of-kilter with its target weighting.
Rjavinski said pension fund managers do have some discretion to choose when they want to rejigger their funds, but they would rarely skip the quarter-end milestone and rebalance at a later time.
“That would mean taking an active bet on the market,” he said.
Corporate pension funds needed to shift $64 billion of funds into stocks as of Dec. 20: Wells Fargo
Beleaguered investors may want to thank pension funds for the stock market’s biggest daily jump in nine years on Wednesday, which helped set the stage for Wall Street’s first weekly gain in an otherwise gloomy December.
Strategists at Wells Fargo said that the market’s last-gasp rally this week may have been driven by buying from pension funds who needed to rebalance their portfolios towards stocks and out of bonds in to keep asset allocations in line.
As of Dec. 20, they estimated defined-benefit pension plans for U.S. corporations needed to shift around $64 billion of funds into stocks before the end of the year.
“There’s no question this is a historically large amount. We’ve been crunching numbers on pension quarter-end flows for a good part of seven years. This is frankly the largest rebalancing amount we’ve seen,” Boris Rjavinski, senior strategist at Wells Fargo Securities, told MarketWatch (see table below).
Defined-benefit pension funds were in the opposite spot back in January when they were sitting on fat gains from the stock market, which repeatedly notched fresh highs, as bonds struggled to keep up. Yet the last two months have seen a reversal of their positions, with pension plans now needing to top up their investments in equities after bonds outperformed in a down year for both asset classes.
The market’s post-Christmas climb appeared to come from nowhere in holiday-thinned trading, leading some to point the finger at pension funds who need to tweak their portfolios before the end of every month and every quarter. Pension funds need periodic readjustment as outperformance or underperformance in one corner of the pension fund’s assets can put its allocation out-of-kilter with its target weighting.
Rjavinski said pension fund managers do have some discretion to choose when they want to rejigger their funds, but they would rarely skip the quarter-end milestone and rebalance at a later time.
“That would mean taking an active bet on the market,” he said.
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2018 was the worst year for the stock market since the great recession 10 years ago.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-ma ... 20891.html
Not gonna lie, this is good news for, uh, certain people who have a S&P Index fund. If this is any indicator it looks like a deal with China is going to happen, and, geopolitically, couldn't come at a better time for this administration.
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The Dow posted its ninth consecutive week of advances, its longest weekly winning streak in nearly 24 years, as investors continued to digest commentary surrounding progress toward a U.S.-China trade deal.
The Dow (^DJI) closed at 26,031.81 points.
Not gonna lie, this is good news for, uh, certain people who have a S&P Index fund. If this is any indicator it looks like a deal with China is going to happen, and, geopolitically, couldn't come at a better time for this administration.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Just another 600 points and we'll be where we were 13 months ago!
‘Father of Reaganomics’ says ‘get out of the market’ — bond and stock market — ‘and put your money in cash’
These guys usually show up with a Democrat as President so I was surprised to see this now.
‘Father of Reaganomics’ says ‘get out of the market’ — bond and stock market — ‘and put your money in cash’
These guys usually show up with a Democrat as President so I was surprised to see this now.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Maybe a more meta view would be helpful to the average person:
A very long term view is certainly important to those who want to talk about long term trends.
But it is Trump who is basing his claims to be a wonderful President on what has happened since 2016. It's therefore reasonable and appropriate to comment on his claims in the short term too.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Well, I probably wouldn't be using Trump's tenure as some sort of metric then if I wanted to demonstrate his failure as a President by the stock market's performance:
https://www.macrotrends.net/2613/stock- ... ction-date
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https://www.macrotrends.net/2613/stock- ... ction-date
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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DOW is dropping big again... down over 400 points today.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia