Next time some one wants to tell you evolution isn't real

[_Chap]

I'm sure you are having a lot of fun SPG. No harm in that. A lot of good, in fact.

But you are nowhere near the kind of approach that generates new and powerful understanding of nature, of the kind that people like Newton, Darwin, Einstein, Franklin/Watson/Crick and Hawking generated.

You're basically stuck at the kind of level of discussion of a generally educated person three hundred years ago. One difference is that you have heard of the work of modern scientists, but you are not doing modern science, and you don't even understand the difference between that and what you are doing. So enjoy, but don't flatter yourself that you are going to get anywhere much.

I am not trying to be unpleasant to you. I just wish you would do some serious and systematic study, and come back when you have. You would get a huge amount out of it.

[_SPG]

I'm sure you are having a lot of fun SPG. No harm in that. A lot of good, in fact.

But you are nowhere near the kind of approach that generates new and powerful understanding of nature, of the kind that people like Newton, Darwin, Einstein, Franklin/Watson/Crick and Hawking generated.

You're basically stuck at the kind of level of discussion of a generally educated person three hundred years ago. One difference is that you have heard of the work of modern scientists, but you are not doing modern science, and you don't even understand the difference between that and what you are doing. So enjoy, but don't flatter yourself that you are going to get anywhere much.

I am not trying to be unpleasant to you. I just wish you would do some serious and systematic study, and come back when you have. You would get a huge amount out of it.

I appreciate your respectful approach. Maybe I'm fooling myself, or maybe I have something. Not everyone has to be a Hawkins, sometimes being a Tolkien or William Hung can be enough. I would never be so bold as to say you are wrong, but I would never accept that you understand it all. There are things I want from life, and if they don't exist, I'll create them. Spirit is real, I can see it every where. Where did it come from, I don't know. Like seriously, my questions and research isn't to prove the spirit doesn't exist, it find where it came from. Maybe that isn't big to you, but it's enough for me.

I believe thousands of things science has specifically "disproved" but I also caught the doctors lying and cheating to protect their business. Maybe I die without anyone noticing, or maybe I show the world a thing or two, I cannot really control what happens. But I have decided that what I see is truth enough that others can see it too.

[_moksha]

I know there are people who can almost live off the just energy of the sun, as you suggested, eating almost nothing.

Ah, the Moon Quakers. Despite their impressive photosynthesis they also need a fixed source of nitrogen, plus a small amount of bread and water every Sunday.

[Guest]

I know there are people who can almost live off the just energy of the sun, as you suggested, eating almost nothing.

Ah, the Moon Quakers. Despite their impressive photosynthesis they also need a fixed source of nitrogen, plus a small amount of bread and water every Sunday.

Surely, as observant Moon Quakers, they would prefer to take in their meager sustenance on the day of the Moon. (Monday).

[_Chap]

I would never accept that you understand it all.

Oh, nor would I. Perhaps the difference between us is that I pretty sure where the boundary between my knowledge and my ignorance lies, and (given that life is finite) I don't spend a lot of time in vague speculations about what lies beyond that boundary. After all, all I have is a few litres of mildly electrified live porridge in my skull, and it would be unfair to expect it to be able to contain the answer to everything, or even to be able to formulate all the relevant questions needed to get even 1% of the way there. Of what one does not know, thereof one must remain silent. (I didn't say that, by the way. Guy called Ludwig Wittgenstein.)

Here is a little present for you, Try reading this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Nature-Things-Lu ... way&sr=8-2

That's just one edition: others are available. A man in Rome wrote it 2,000 years ago, with the huge ambition of explaining how everything in the universe worked, on the basis that everything was made of atoms, and that is all there is. Try it. It has the same effect on the mind as a sharp mouthwash has on the teeth and gums.

[_Res Ipsa]

SPG, my advice to read a couple of books written by evolutionary biologists was the best advice I could could give you. It’s apparent from your posts here that, while you may have read some anti-evolution material, you’ve never taken the time to learn exactly what the theory is and how it works. Whether to continue saying stuff that displays your ignorance is up to you.

[_SPG]

SPG, my advice to read a couple of books written by evolutionary biologists was the best advice I could could give you. It’s apparent from your posts here that, while you may have read some anti-evolution material, you’ve never taken the time to learn exactly what the theory is and how it works. Whether to continue saying stuff that displays your ignorance is up to you.

I am closer to truth by admission of my ignorance than anyone is by claiming to know.

You said a key word, theory. We don't know. There is some very good and professional thinking.

My personal experience is that there are some things real that evolutionists tend to disagree with. Like my near death experience. Evolutionists would try to explain how my brain was starving of oxygen, all the brain energy was sucked up into some area of the brain that causes hallucinations to make me think I was seeing Angels. I saw them lift a truck off of my sister along with my brother in law. I saw a lot of things over about 30 minutes.

But evolutionists specifically deny the idea of a soul that embodies into the mortal body. They have explained life without the soul and no good book in going to change my mind. And I don't want my mind changed. I have my own theory but willing to be challenged. But my theory involves things we sort of know about but don't really put it into the equation. Like that we cannot see 97% of our universe. But evolutionists are quick to poo-poo the idea that there is intelligence beyond our realm.

Theory has it that at the time of the big bang, 97% of the energy was so hot it instantly made a quantum leap into a higher dimension. But, somehow, evolutionists are pretty they understand what is happening.

[_SteelHead]

Spg you need to research what it means for something to rise to the level of "theory" in science.

Also, we know evolution is occurring, see the article from the op.

[_SPG]

Spg you need to research what it means for something to rise to the level of "theory" in science.

Also, we know evolution is occurring, see the article from the op.

I do understand what theory means. Basically, that there math works but can't really prove it.

I can see that evolution is happening. My problem isn't so much with the theory as the people that strongly embrace it.

[_Chap]

I do understand what theory means. Basically, that there math works but can't really prove it.

No: your post makes it clear that you do not in fact understand the normal meaning of the word 'theory' in a scientific context.