Right Wing Violence - Media not accountable

[_EAllusion]

Nothing more leftist than supporting a theocracy.

Yes yes. Islam has no history with socialism, whatever that means these days because apparently it doesn't exist in whatever form someone says it does, and is limited to EAllusion's breathless explanation how everyone is wrong and he'll set us straight. But first we must witness him argue with himself first

- Doc

An American inspired by ISIS should be classified as a leftwing terrorist incident because he is a Muslim and post-9/11 Muslims on average lean Democrat (it's about 2 out of every 3 American Muslims), so we can safely assume that he too is a Democrat. Democrats are leftists. Nevermind that ISIS is a far-right group. Never-mind the crude generalizations.

The best part is you still claim to be a staunch Democrat and purport to hate leftists. But if being a Democrat = leftist, then well, yeah.

[_Kevin Graham]

You have to be a really special kind of stupid to say ISIS is in any sense "leftist." I've already demonstrated Right Wing ideology in America has far more in common with radical Islam. Radical islam is the antithesis of Progressivism. Doc can't [deleted] long enough to realize this was a Trump supporter who was mocking the Muslims who were grieving the loss of their loved ones who died at the hands of another guy who said Trump was a great symbol for white unity. This isn't speculation or hearsay, it is demonstrable fact.

Imagine American terrorists using Australia's Prime Minister as a mentor. How damned weird would that be? Trump's hatred and bigotry is strong enough to cross the globe and affect people in other countries, so little wonder he's able to do the same here at home. I've already listed a dozen examples of people killing in the name of Right Wing ideology. Neither Doc nor Ajax have provided any examples of that on the Left. Which is odd. When I saw the Right Wing violence during Obama years I figured it was just the Right being upset about having lost their power at the time. But even with control of the Executive and Congress right wing violence continued to skyrocket.

I've provided many examples of murders and murder attempts by Trump/FOX fanatics and all they got to put up against that is Bill Ayers from 40 years ago, who never actually killed anyone.

[_EAllusion]

There is a rising international network of people with fascist / white supremacist sympathies who are enjoying varying degrees of success in the Western world. They may be described with the euphemism "populist," but their politics is authoritarian and motivated by the bigotries we associate with the American alt-right. Call it 21st century fascism for lack of a better term. The Christchurch shooter was an example of this. They generally view Trump as a symbol of their success. It's not just many of Trump's critics who consider him a white supremacist with fascist-like politics. White supremacists with fascist-like politics see him that way too.

[_Kevin Graham]

Republicans aren't mostly racist.

But most racists vote Republican.

[_Maksutov]

There is a rising international network of people with fascist / white supremacist sympathies who are enjoying varying degrees of success in the Western world. They may be described with the euphemism "populist," but their politics is authoritarian and motivated by the bigotries we associate with the American alt-right. Call it 21st century fascism for lack of a better term. The Christchurch shooter was an example of this. They generally view Trump as a symbol of their success. It's not just many of Trump's critics who consider him a white supremacist with fascist-like politics. White supremacists with fascist-like politics see him that way too.

Breivik has set the template for European Christofascism.

He deliberately set out to wipe out a whole new generation of Norwegian leftists, railing against "cultural Marxism" and donning the symbols of a largely mythical order of medieval knights. American analogues will be different in details but I suspect similar in intent.

[_Gray Ghost]

Gray Ghost. You have zero idea what's being included and what's being excluded in the dataset. Answer my question.

- Doc

Knock yourself out Doc. Or continue to live in denial. Whichever you prefer.

https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I love that GG just re-linked to the GTD, which he clearly hasn't bothered to peruse. This is evidenced by his totally shoot-and-a-miss by not recognizing my direct quote from the website.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

There is a rising international network of people with fascist / white supremacist sympathies who are enjoying varying degrees of success in the Western world. They may be described with the euphemism "populist," but their politics is authoritarian and motivated by the bigotries we associate with the American alt-right. Call it 21st century fascism for lack of a better term. The Christchurch shooter was an example of this. They generally view Trump as a symbol of their success. It's not just many of Trump's critics who consider him a white supremacist with fascist-like politics. White supremacists with fascist-like politics see him that way too.

You can say what you want about me being racist based on 10 year old quote from stormfront. I really don't care. But you have no reason to think that Trump is a racist if in fact you really think my take on you is "that anyone who wants the border enforced is a racist" is in fact a "strawman." Being a proponent of border enforcement and speaking bluntly about ending chain migration is your only evidence that Trump is racist. Trump isn't out advocating white supremacist interests now. But he has advocated to enforce the border and put American citizens interests above that of the rest of the world. For most of the lowlife scum that make up the mainstream media, that's what white supremacism (which you say is euphemistically called populism) means. Do you support affirmative action? If not, you're a white supremacist. Common people have caught on to this kind of slander and recognized it for what it is and that's why the least politically correct candidate was victorious and will be victorious again!

The fact that you view Trump as the epitome of white supremacism proves just how hypersensitive and skewed your definition of the term really is. People hear white supremacism and they think of confederate slave masters. When in fact it now can mean anyone who puts American citizen interests first even to the point of enforcing the southern border or putting a tariff on a global economic competitor who refuses to play fairly.

[_EAllusion]

You can say what you want about me being racist based on 10 year old quote from stormfront.

Well, that's dishonest on any number of fronts. Let's name a few:

You posted numerous racist things here, on this board, that people like myself were able to cite as a painfully racist posting history before your Stormfront posting habits were even known about. The Stormfront posting history just revealed a deeper layer of more shocking racism up to and including advocating genocide.

This makes it seem like you said something racist in a single quote on Stormfront. More accuartely, you had an extensive posting history filled with many racist statements.

After being discovered as a Stormfront poster, you briefly left this board. During that time, you returned to Stormfront and resumed posting racist things. You also discussed that your affinity for the people there and how you need to be deceptive about your true feelings on racial subjects in the broader world, but not there. This was much more recent than 10 years ago.

But you have no reason to think that Trump is a racist

We have tons of reason. He kicked off his 2016 campaign with a racist speech.

Being a proponent of border enforcement and speaking bluntly about ending chain migration is your only evidence that Trump is racist.

I don't believe you believe what you are saying here. Also, your reply doesn't address what you are quoting form me at all. Though, yeah, you are an illustration of its point.

[_ajax18]

We have tons of reason. He kicked off his 2016 campaign with a racist speech.

Do you really think Trump is a white supremacist? I don't even think Trump is a white nationalist. But are you even able to distinguish white supremacist from white nationalist?