Seth Rich Conspiracy came from Russia

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Exiled wrote:It was kim.com who promoted that Seth Rich was the wikileaks source. At least that's where I first heard about it. He claimed he was part of the transaction in some way and offered to testify before Congress but was rebuffed. Russia was more of a convenient target.

What if Fox had undeniable evidence that Trump raped that 13 year old back in the 90's? Would you automatically disbelieve because Fox doesn't play to your team?

Is testifying before Congress the usual procedure for folks who claim to have undeniable evidence of a murder under investigation?
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canpakes wrote:Are you saying that you independently concluded the same unsubstantiated claim as was suggested by a Russian troll source and promoted by Fox News?

Yes.
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I've sat down and broken bread with Shades and we spoke for at least a couple of hours. I don't think we'd ever be anything other than civil towards each other.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
canpakes wrote:Are you saying that you independently concluded the same unsubstantiated claim as was suggested by a Russian troll source and promoted by Fox News?

Yes.

Would you have reached the same conclusion about any DNC employee that was killed during the same time frame?
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canpakes wrote:
Exiled wrote:It was kim.com who promoted that Seth Rich was the wikileaks source. At least that's where I first heard about it. He claimed he was part of the transaction in some way and offered to testify before Congress but was rebuffed. Russia was more of a convenient target.

What if Fox had undeniable evidence that Trump raped that 13 year old back in the 90's? Would you automatically disbelieve because Fox doesn't play to your team?

Is testifying before Congress the usual procedure for folks who claim to have undeniable evidence of a murder under investigation?


The point is that he was and is willing to give evidence and no one wanted to hear it and they still don't, not even the DC police. The same goes for Assange and Craig Murray. I guess anyone who doesn't support a given narrative is not wanted as a witness. It seems this is the wrong way to go about things, if one is dispassionately looking for the truth, instead of narrative support.
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Exiled wrote:The point is that he was and is willing to give evidence and no one wanted to hear it and they still don't, not even the DC police. The same goes for Assange and Craig Murray. I guess anyone who doesn't support a given narrative is not wanted as a witness. It seems this is the wrong way to go about things, if one is dispassionately looking for the truth, instead of narrative support.

Why won't they bring Putin in to testify? WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Gray Ghost wrote:
Exiled wrote:The point is that he was and is willing to give evidence and no one wanted to hear it and they still don't, not even the DC police. The same goes for Assange and Craig Murray. I guess anyone who doesn't support a given narrative is not wanted as a witness. It seems this is the wrong way to go about things, if one is dispassionately looking for the truth, instead of narrative support.

Why won't they bring Putin in to testify? WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I think you have to admit that by not interviewing Assange, kim.com, and Craig Murray, the Seth Rich investigation is crippled. They claim to have pertinent evidence that could lead to actually catching the murderers, if that is important.
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Exiled wrote:
canpakes wrote:Is testifying before Congress the usual procedure for folks who claim to have undeniable evidence of a murder under investigation?

The point is that he was and is willing to give evidence and no one wanted to hear it and they still don't, not even the DC police. The same goes for Assange and Craig Murray. I guess anyone who doesn't support a given narrative is not wanted as a witness. It seems this is the wrong way to go about things, if one is dispassionately looking for the truth, instead of narrative support.

No one..? Not even Fox, or any number of far-right websites that would jump at the chance to construct an undeniable trail of evidence that skewers the DNC? Or, he can’t expose any details on his own site?

Something about kim.com’s story smells a bit off.
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Canpakes said:

No one..? Not even Fox, or any number of far-right websites that would jump at the chance to construct an undeniable trail of evidence that skewers the DNC? Or, he can’t expose any details on his own site?

Something about kim.com’s story smells a bit off.


Good point. But how about forcing an interview then? How about subpoenaing him then? The DC police hasn't done anything. If his information is s___, then itll silence the conspiracy critics and bring them back to the correct, mainstream media conspiracy, at least.
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Exiled wrote:
Canpakes said:

No one..? Not even Fox, or any number of far-right websites that would jump at the chance to construct an undeniable trail of evidence that skewers the DNC? Or, he can’t expose any details on his own site?

Something about kim.com’s story smells a bit off.


Good point. But how about forcing an interview then? How about subpoenaing him then? The DC police hasn't done anything. If his information is s___, then itll silence the conspiracy critics and bring them back to the correct, mainstream media conspiracy, at least.

Well, I don’t think that the DC police launched search warrants on Comet Ping Pong, as example, simply because some folks alleged that there was a DNC-controlled child porn sex ring operating in the basement between takeout orders. Perhaps the initial quality of the offered information was a tip-off as to how useful it was as ‘evidence’, as opposed to it just being a conduit for someone to seek the limelight of congressional testimony.

It’s remarkable - in our hyper-partisan environment - that no-one wants to bother with the ‘evidence’. Remember Occam's Razor ...
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